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<blockquote data-quote="Wik" data-source="post: 5214674" data-attributes="member: 40177">Well said.Poops and giggles?&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />&nbsp;Wanna debate about that, then?&nbsp; Because I disagree with you there, too, actually.&nbsp; But I totally get where you're coming from on that one.&nbsp; Almost all of my campaigns started with Kalak as king, and none ever got to the part where Kalak was deposed.&nbsp; I just want to jump to the good part and start with Tyr recently being freed.&nbsp; It's an interesting debate, and one with a LOT more grounds than this feywild debacle.&nbsp; I think at this point, it's all about which side gets the last word... which I was willing to do, until I was called &quot;daft&quot;.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />My Dark Sun, by the way, is not a &quot;by the book&quot; dark sun, either.&nbsp; A few of the changes I made to the old 2e setting (some which may or may not come back):*&nbsp; All magic that is not psionics is hated.&nbsp; People can't tell the difference between an elemental priest (er, primal character now, I guess) and a wizard.&nbsp; They don't know the diff between a preserver and a defiler.&nbsp; If you cast magic, you get lynched.*&nbsp; Very few magic items (is this core to the setting?&nbsp; It always was with us, but the modules don't seem to support it)*&nbsp; Fewer psionicists/wild talents.&nbsp; Psionics are still prevalent... just not AS prevalent (mostly because we hated the rules in 2e).*&nbsp; Completely reworked the Veiled Alliance.&nbsp; Basing the alliance off the French Resistance in WW2 does not work that well, when the alliance has only a hundred members or so in a particular city.&nbsp; *&nbsp; Templars were regularly available as player characters (*SO* glad this option is coming back in 4e!).&nbsp; *&nbsp; I invented new city-states beyond the Tyr Region.&nbsp; In fact, I figured they were all over the planet... there was nothing special about the Tyr Region, except that the PCs were there.&nbsp; I hinted that there could be hundreds of Sorcerer Kings out there...*&nbsp;&nbsp; In that vein, the sorcerer kings weren't as powerful.&nbsp; I mean, they were POWERFUL, but not godlike.&nbsp; PCs could become Sorcerer Kings, thereotically.&nbsp; And grant spells to their templars.&nbsp; *&nbsp;&nbsp; Anything involving Rajaat or that revised nonsense was blasted out, unless I liked it (seriously, what the hell was Mage Home!?)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Wik, post: 5214674, member: 40177"] Well said. Poops and giggles? ;) Wanna debate about that, then? Because I disagree with you there, too, actually. But I totally get where you're coming from on that one. Almost all of my campaigns started with Kalak as king, and none ever got to the part where Kalak was deposed. I just want to jump to the good part and start with Tyr recently being freed. It's an interesting debate, and one with a LOT more grounds than this feywild debacle. I think at this point, it's all about which side gets the last word... which I was willing to do, until I was called "daft". :) My Dark Sun, by the way, is not a "by the book" dark sun, either. A few of the changes I made to the old 2e setting (some which may or may not come back): * All magic that is not psionics is hated. People can't tell the difference between an elemental priest (er, primal character now, I guess) and a wizard. They don't know the diff between a preserver and a defiler. If you cast magic, you get lynched. * Very few magic items (is this core to the setting? It always was with us, but the modules don't seem to support it) * Fewer psionicists/wild talents. Psionics are still prevalent... just not AS prevalent (mostly because we hated the rules in 2e). * Completely reworked the Veiled Alliance. Basing the alliance off the French Resistance in WW2 does not work that well, when the alliance has only a hundred members or so in a particular city. * Templars were regularly available as player characters (*SO* glad this option is coming back in 4e!). * I invented new city-states beyond the Tyr Region. In fact, I figured they were all over the planet... there was nothing special about the Tyr Region, except that the PCs were there. I hinted that there could be hundreds of Sorcerer Kings out there... * In that vein, the sorcerer kings weren't as powerful. I mean, they were POWERFUL, but not godlike. PCs could become Sorcerer Kings, thereotically. And grant spells to their templars. * Anything involving Rajaat or that revised nonsense was blasted out, unless I liked it (seriously, what the hell was Mage Home!?) [/QUOTE]

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