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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cam Banks" data-source="post: 3239746" data-attributes="member: 3817">As others have said, it's because the Dragonlance setting is now its own cosmology. "No amount of magic" may have been a little strong, and of course there's nothing to stop you from using 3.5's plane of Shadow back door pass, but the way the universe is set up even the Shadow plane is just one aspect of the Gray, a sort of trifold transitive plane within the "bubble" of planes that surrounds Krynn's material world.The section on cosmology in Holy Orders of the Stars and even in the DLCS implies this, although truthfully there have been portals and wormholes before that lead outside the "bubble" and to the Beyond, which is where the Dragon Overlords came from. It's easiest to think of Krynn as being a world wrapped in three outer planes (the Abyss, the Dome of Creation, and the Hidden Vale), which are the source of positive and negative energy as well as the elemental planes, all of which extend inwards to the Mortal Realm. The Gray is the transitive stuff that occupies the rest of the inside of the "bubble" and, depending on how you access it, is the Astral, Ethereal, or Shadow plane.The "bubble" is unimaginably huge, the outer planes are vast and contain hundreds of divinely-morphic realms of their own, and so on and so forth, so it's essentially a self-contained planar cosmology. But the "bubble" also 'floats' in the formless Ethereal Sea or "Beyond" where, it's assumed, there are other universes and worlds and planar constructs. But since the gods of Krynn reside as conceptual beings within one of the three outer planes in the "bubble" they don't extend their influences anywhere else (and they don't have stats in the Deities and Demigods sense, either.)Yeah, I've thought about this way too much. But it's how Tracy conceptualized it originally, and although the 1e Manual of the Planes and the 2e cross-planar concepts shoehorned all of Krynn's gods and outer planar denizens into the Great Wheel, we wanted to get back to Tracy's vision with 3rd edition.Cheers,Cam</blockquote>

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