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<blockquote data-quote="balterkn" data-source="post: 3958125" data-attributes="member: 46546"><p>I'm also in "the editorial left me cold" camp.</p><p></p><p>This boils down to a few items for me:</p><p>FACT: DDI (specifically e-Dragon and e-Dungeon) are explicitly in a promotional phase by their publisher (WOTC)</p><p>FACT: DnD 4E is upcoming in approximately 6 months</p><p>FACT: DnD 3.5E is the current version that I am allowed to play (not being a playtester)</p><p></p><p>ISSUE AT HAND: I will need to determine if $10/month for e-Dungeon and e-Dragon makes sense to support my 4E game</p><p></p><p>For me, my observation is that past behavior is generally a good indication of future behavior. Past behavior does not guarantee future behavior, just give information as to the most likely future behavior. My concerns are that the editors of this new DDI service haven't done a good job with their promotional materials to convince me that </p><p></p><p>I actually have found some crunch in the new e-Dragons, take issue 360 for example: the lower planar lords articles, the dragons of Eberron article, and more have some stats, encounter descriptions and the like. They have some crunch to them, but not as much as I am used to in 3.5E articles. My question, as a potential customer, "is this a preview of the types of crunch I will expect to see in future e-Dragons that I will be paying for?"</p><p></p><p>My point isn't that e-Dragon/e-Dungeon are good or bad. I've generally liked what I've seen, with some reservations.</p><p></p><p>My point is "how are you helping me to decide if I want to buy a subscription to the DDI?" The editorial didn't give me any sense that the editors understand the business proposition behind giving these issues of e-Dragon/e-Dungeon out for free. They aren't giving these out for free out of the goodness of their hearts. They are supposed to be winning our hearts (and thus our subscriptions) for the new product. The editorial left me feeling that they completely missed the point of this (hopefully constructive) criticism that is being leveled against them.</p><p></p><p>My plead to the editors is thus: "help me like the magazines for what they are right now; promises of the future don't tell me what you are, only what you aren't"</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="balterkn, post: 3958125, member: 46546"] I'm also in "the editorial left me cold" camp. This boils down to a few items for me: FACT: DDI (specifically e-Dragon and e-Dungeon) are explicitly in a promotional phase by their publisher (WOTC) FACT: DnD 4E is upcoming in approximately 6 months FACT: DnD 3.5E is the current version that I am allowed to play (not being a playtester) ISSUE AT HAND: I will need to determine if $10/month for e-Dungeon and e-Dragon makes sense to support my 4E game For me, my observation is that past behavior is generally a good indication of future behavior. Past behavior does not guarantee future behavior, just give information as to the most likely future behavior. My concerns are that the editors of this new DDI service haven't done a good job with their promotional materials to convince me that I actually have found some crunch in the new e-Dragons, take issue 360 for example: the lower planar lords articles, the dragons of Eberron article, and more have some stats, encounter descriptions and the like. They have some crunch to them, but not as much as I am used to in 3.5E articles. My question, as a potential customer, "is this a preview of the types of crunch I will expect to see in future e-Dragons that I will be paying for?" My point isn't that e-Dragon/e-Dungeon are good or bad. I've generally liked what I've seen, with some reservations. My point is "how are you helping me to decide if I want to buy a subscription to the DDI?" The editorial didn't give me any sense that the editors understand the business proposition behind giving these issues of e-Dragon/e-Dungeon out for free. They aren't giving these out for free out of the goodness of their hearts. They are supposed to be winning our hearts (and thus our subscriptions) for the new product. The editorial left me feeling that they completely missed the point of this (hopefully constructive) criticism that is being leveled against them. My plead to the editors is thus: "help me like the magazines for what they are right now; promises of the future don't tell me what you are, only what you aren't" [/QUOTE]
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