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<blockquote data-quote="catsclaw227" data-source="post: 3958847" data-attributes="member: 14197"><p>First, despite an opposing opinion than I, I want to commend Imaro and Alzrius on providing calm and specific responses that reflect their viewpoints.</p><p></p><p>That said.. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> .. </p><p></p><p>I can't recall the exact quotes from the Gencon announcement regarding online Dungeon and Dragon, nor the exact quotes from WOTC when the announcement of what the transition would be like between the hand-off from Paizo and the paid online subscription services. But I wonder whether we have taken a few specific sentences and built expectations because of the numerous threads that sprouted up around within the community, causing a small snowball of expectation to become an avalance of expectation. It wouldn't be the first time nor will it be the last. I am guilty as charged in a few cases myself.</p><p></p><p>If I recall what I remember, they stated that they would try to maintain the quality of articles that are provided online that the audience had come to expect from Paizo, but that it would be free while they were trying to get the online magazine portion of the DDI up to snuff.</p><p></p><p>From the <a href="http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/dred/20070816a" target="_blank">Welcome to Dragon</a> article on 8-16-2007:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I am not sure if the last paragraph refers to the paid subscription Dragon and Dungeon when it comes out or not, but the paragraph with... </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It seems that they have been doing this already. I wonder if Chris' article is stating that this will all stop, or if he is saying that we aren't gonna get a lot of 3.5e crunch between now and 4e release. I would love to see another Ecology article or a Demonomicon/Infernal article.</p><p></p><p>Maybe if they gave us a Core Beliefs article with one of the new Dieties? Awesome! But that would simply raise expectations (again) to an unreasonable level if they only give one in the next six months.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/drfe/360preview" target="_blank">Issue 360 preview</a> shows what they will give, and they delivered everything promised. </p><p></p><p>I don't know.... I get the feeling that many of the expectations people have are rooted in a single smaller promise that has bloated under the weight of many long heated threads. It happens a lot around the web, and this place, while the most civil and my favorite d20/D&D community, is just as guilty.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>From the most recent and offending Chris Thommason article:</p><p></p><p>He is saying.... <strong>not much will change</strong> over what they are offering now. He didn't say that they are dropping all the content that you mentions that they are dropping. Now, others will think that they are dropping all that content, consider it a reliable quote and run with it. New expectation created from a quote that is NOT accurate to what was stated in the column.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Plesae help me understand your position. If you can find the deliberately crafted expectation in the things that have come specifically from WOTC, I will humbly recant my position. As I have stated, the expectations they crafted were initially smaller, but were bloated by the internet. </p><p></p><p>Believe me, I loved Dragon and Dungeon, Paizo style. They have elevated themselves, in my eyes, as the best 3rd party publishing house in the d20/OGL business. That says alot considering my respect for Necro, GR, Paradigm and Goodman.</p><p></p><p>I am willing to eat massive crow if it comes August next year and WOTC is sucking lemons with DDI. But when I look at the evidence, they're getting hammered for what amounts to simply tightening the reigns for a few months while they prep for the biggest RPG launch in the past 7 years.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="catsclaw227, post: 3958847, member: 14197"] First, despite an opposing opinion than I, I want to commend Imaro and Alzrius on providing calm and specific responses that reflect their viewpoints. That said.. :) .. I can't recall the exact quotes from the Gencon announcement regarding online Dungeon and Dragon, nor the exact quotes from WOTC when the announcement of what the transition would be like between the hand-off from Paizo and the paid online subscription services. But I wonder whether we have taken a few specific sentences and built expectations because of the numerous threads that sprouted up around within the community, causing a small snowball of expectation to become an avalance of expectation. It wouldn't be the first time nor will it be the last. I am guilty as charged in a few cases myself. If I recall what I remember, they stated that they would try to maintain the quality of articles that are provided online that the audience had come to expect from Paizo, but that it would be free while they were trying to get the online magazine portion of the DDI up to snuff. From the [URL=http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/dred/20070816a]Welcome to Dragon[/URL] article on 8-16-2007: I am not sure if the last paragraph refers to the paid subscription Dragon and Dungeon when it comes out or not, but the paragraph with... It seems that they have been doing this already. I wonder if Chris' article is stating that this will all stop, or if he is saying that we aren't gonna get a lot of 3.5e crunch between now and 4e release. I would love to see another Ecology article or a Demonomicon/Infernal article. Maybe if they gave us a Core Beliefs article with one of the new Dieties? Awesome! But that would simply raise expectations (again) to an unreasonable level if they only give one in the next six months. [URL=http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/drfe/360preview]Issue 360 preview[/URL] shows what they will give, and they delivered everything promised. I don't know.... I get the feeling that many of the expectations people have are rooted in a single smaller promise that has bloated under the weight of many long heated threads. It happens a lot around the web, and this place, while the most civil and my favorite d20/D&D community, is just as guilty. From the most recent and offending Chris Thommason article: He is saying.... [B]not much will change[/B] over what they are offering now. He didn't say that they are dropping all the content that you mentions that they are dropping. Now, others will think that they are dropping all that content, consider it a reliable quote and run with it. New expectation created from a quote that is NOT accurate to what was stated in the column. Plesae help me understand your position. If you can find the deliberately crafted expectation in the things that have come specifically from WOTC, I will humbly recant my position. As I have stated, the expectations they crafted were initially smaller, but were bloated by the internet. Believe me, I loved Dragon and Dungeon, Paizo style. They have elevated themselves, in my eyes, as the best 3rd party publishing house in the d20/OGL business. That says alot considering my respect for Necro, GR, Paradigm and Goodman. I am willing to eat massive crow if it comes August next year and WOTC is sucking lemons with DDI. But when I look at the evidence, they're getting hammered for what amounts to simply tightening the reigns for a few months while they prep for the biggest RPG launch in the past 7 years. [/QUOTE]
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