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<blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 4583873" data-attributes="member: 2067">I can see that argument, but it's just as easy to say that infinite planes can have an edge (they can be infinite in the interior). Plenty of infinite planes had edges in earlier editions (celestia's first layer was infinite beach, for instance). That's kind of the catch 22. For any reason one may think of to change it to &quot;finite,&quot; &quot;infinite&quot; works equally as well. That's kind of why I don't have a problem with the...finitude? per se, I just think it's dumb to have to change it. It's not really broken. Pointless change for the sake of it. Wasted energy, basically. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> Halflings are really 3/4ths of a human, not half of them. Does that mean &quot;Half&quot; is just a buzzword used by people that do not actually know what it means?No, it means you are thinking too hard about fantasy.Seriously, this is 4e. You could be forgiven for wanting precise definitions of infinity in 3e. In 4e, &quot;infinite&quot; is an end purpose, just like &quot;encounter powers&quot; are or the &quot;small&quot; size category is. However you want to fluff away infinity, the long and short of it is that it contains everything any DM ever wants it too.Oddly enough, changing it to &quot;finite&quot; doesn't change that reality. All it does is scratch an itch (and guess what? now others have to scratch a different itch that the change caused). It's pointless.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="I'm A Banana, post: 4583873, member: 2067"] I can see that argument, but it's just as easy to say that infinite planes can have an edge (they can be infinite in the interior). Plenty of infinite planes had edges in earlier editions (celestia's first layer was infinite beach, for instance). That's kind of the catch 22. For any reason one may think of to change it to "finite," "infinite" works equally as well. That's kind of why I don't have a problem with the...finitude? per se, I just think it's dumb to have to change it. It's not really broken. Pointless change for the sake of it. Wasted energy, basically. ;) Halflings are really 3/4ths of a human, not half of them. Does that mean "Half" is just a buzzword used by people that do not actually know what it means? No, it means you are thinking too hard about fantasy. Seriously, this is 4e. You could be forgiven for wanting precise definitions of infinity in 3e. In 4e, "infinite" is an end purpose, just like "encounter powers" are or the "small" size category is. However you want to fluff away infinity, the long and short of it is that it contains everything any DM ever wants it too. Oddly enough, changing it to "finite" doesn't change that reality. All it does is scratch an itch (and guess what? now others have to scratch a different itch that the change caused). It's pointless. [/QUOTE]

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