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Message: <blockquote data-quote="TwinBahamut" data-source="post: 4592095" data-attributes="member: 32536">And which god is that? Based on how 4E has been handled so far, that "god some savage orcs pray to" is likely to be a different name for an existing god. If they are good/unaligned orcs (not possible by RAW, but whatever), they might be worshipping Kord or Melora by another name. If they are bad orcs, they might be worshipping Asmodeus by a different name. No reason whatsoever that it is an entirely different pantheon, or that it is a totally irreconcilable one (considering how flexible most polytheistic religions tend to be).Sorry, I don't have that book, so I can't really comment. It doesn't seem to address your original concern, though, since all gods are lumped together in that structure.You are a bit incoherent here... I don't even see how what you are saying is relevant to either of our points.At this point, all I can say is that if you want to ignore the way things have actually been perceived in real polytheistic religions and do your own thing for your own D&D game, that is fine, but that is a far cry from saying that the concept of the Invoker is inherently absurd. It may be absurd based on your own preferences and historically-inaccurate interpretations, but that does not mean it will be the same for the rest of us.</blockquote>