Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.

Reply to thread

Message: <blockquote data-quote="Rechan" data-source="post: 4592239" data-attributes="member: 54846">I realize this is a threadjack. So for the sake of convenience, I'll put this stuff behind a cut.[sblock]Well, I don't see them as "assumptions" (i.e. saying how they just are in RAW and in everyone's game) and more "This is a conscious choice of how I run/interpret this stuff for me." We all know what the PHB fluff says. We all know what the rules are. That doesn't stop us from changing it.Not just my homebrew campaign, but the way I feel that things are, in D&D. I acknowledge that's different from you and the next guy, but it goes beyond "Setting" and just "This is how I believe it should be or is for me." Similar to how you would answer the question, "To you, what is a wizard? What makes a wizard? What is their relationship to magic?" This is just how gods are to me. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Considering that the rules say Clerics can only use healing word twice in an encounter, it's not Pelor's fault unless one decided to make it Pelor's fault: Pelor is personally penalizing the Cleric because the cleric has used Healing Word twice this encounter, and thus Pelor says "Sorry, you tapped out your Five Minute allotment of petty healing. Please wait 5 minutes and heal again." <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> I didn't say that I personally consider the Gods as head bureaucrats and every single action is an executive decision (This isn't Exalted, where prayers are literal paperwork and the Gods are a literal giant Bureaucracy). I was trying to explain that a prayer for a blessing is different than raw divine magic in an analogy. [sblock=Amusing Tangent]Not to get too close into people's religion, but I have seen the Catholic belief system in Saints explained like this: imagine Heaven as a big city. The Saints are in charge of various departments. Take Saint Jude for instance, who is the Patron of Hospitals and Desperate Situations, and they handle those related issues. When you pray to a Saint, the saint receives the prayer, and then he's supposed to take it to God, and this has some significance because the Saint is jockying for you. So if your kid is in the Hospital, you pray to Saint Jude, and Jude takes it to God, lobbying for you.[/sblock]But the way I see Fluff As Written on Gods is also silly. So Pelor is this good guy, and he allows a cleric to bless another cleric, endowing Pelor's power into this other cleric, and then that cleric can go off and murder babies with Pelor's divine Magic, and Pelor isn't supposed to know about it or have any say about it? If Pelor can't receive prayers from farmers praying for safety from undead roaming the countryside, or doesn' tknow, then how is he supposed to ever be able to send help to those farmers seeking Aid? In my interpretation, worship and prayer is power. Gods gain power from having worshipers; the more worshipers giving prayers or tribute, the more power they get. It's literal divine energy. A prayer isn't so much a note, as it is a chunk of energy with a context attached that filters up. Even Farmer Joe asking Pelor for a sunny day is power, because Farmer Joe wants it to happen and believes Pelor can do it. That's power.I forget which FR novel it is, but it was said that Elminster knew when someone spoke his name, and he could hear what they said when they did it. I think this method is reasonable when it comes to Gods: They know when someone speaks their name. Further, they know the context of when someone invokes their name, and they know if some divine power of the God is being used in their name. To get around this knowledge takes some serious mojo or preparation (In the TV show "Reaper", the devil can hear anything, unless you are inside a circler structure at the time, because the Devil has no corner for his influence to enter.)So a Cleric has the Divine Power in them, and it is fed from above (much like electricity in your house is piped in, ready for when you flick the switch). The Cleric doesn't need to get permission to use anything, but, the God knows when the Cleric uses that power, and why. So if the Cleric of Pelor is using the power inside of him to kill babies, then Pelor knows because those prayers are in his name.[/sblock]</blockquote>

Verification