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<blockquote data-quote="gribble" data-source="post: 4592351" data-attributes="member: 12430"><p>You see, I just don't see that in the fluff that has been presented. Seems to me there are 2 types of Invoker, one that is devoted to a single god, and one that is more devoted to a pantheon or group of gods.</p><p></p><p>In either case I can't see anything that says the Invoker is less devoted than a Cleric, it's just that they have a different kind of devotion. As described, an Invoker's connection with their god(s) is a very primal, personal thing, whereas a Cleric's is much more dogmatic, and seen through the lens of an organised mortal religion. I see a Cleric learning specific rituals to perform and offerings/bargains to make to tap into a gods power, whereas an Invoker just intuitively knows how to tap into the same power. But I certainly don't see anything that says an Invoker is less devoted or deserving or that paints a picture of a "divine mercenary"...</p><p></p><p>Heck, it even says in the PHB that a Cleric can worship a pantheon as well! To put it in a human perspective, let's imagine a guy with a group of friends. One of them is always good to talk to when he has a problem. Another is really good for going out drinking with and having a fun time. A third is a fellow sports fanatic who enjoys watching sports with him. Can you honestly claim that he must be more devoted to one of these friends than the others? No, even though he gives (and receives) different things to/from each one, he can still be equally devoted to them all. </p><p></p><p>Actually, I like that analogy - it even describes an Invoker who worships a good and and evil god (such as Bahumat/Tiamat). The same guy could have two friends who dislike each other, but that doesn't mean he couldn't get on with them both. Of course, the three of them wouldn't likely hang out together, but he could still be equally devoted to them both and hang out with them individually.</p><p></p><p>And, in fact, contrasting the two class descriptions I'd say if anything the Cleric reads as the less devoted / more mercenary class...</p><p></p><p>Well, that's the way I see it anyway.</p><p><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="gribble, post: 4592351, member: 12430"] You see, I just don't see that in the fluff that has been presented. Seems to me there are 2 types of Invoker, one that is devoted to a single god, and one that is more devoted to a pantheon or group of gods. In either case I can't see anything that says the Invoker is less devoted than a Cleric, it's just that they have a different kind of devotion. As described, an Invoker's connection with their god(s) is a very primal, personal thing, whereas a Cleric's is much more dogmatic, and seen through the lens of an organised mortal religion. I see a Cleric learning specific rituals to perform and offerings/bargains to make to tap into a gods power, whereas an Invoker just intuitively knows how to tap into the same power. But I certainly don't see anything that says an Invoker is less devoted or deserving or that paints a picture of a "divine mercenary"... Heck, it even says in the PHB that a Cleric can worship a pantheon as well! To put it in a human perspective, let's imagine a guy with a group of friends. One of them is always good to talk to when he has a problem. Another is really good for going out drinking with and having a fun time. A third is a fellow sports fanatic who enjoys watching sports with him. Can you honestly claim that he must be more devoted to one of these friends than the others? No, even though he gives (and receives) different things to/from each one, he can still be equally devoted to them all. Actually, I like that analogy - it even describes an Invoker who worships a good and and evil god (such as Bahumat/Tiamat). The same guy could have two friends who dislike each other, but that doesn't mean he couldn't get on with them both. Of course, the three of them wouldn't likely hang out together, but he could still be equally devoted to them both and hang out with them individually. And, in fact, contrasting the two class descriptions I'd say if anything the Cleric reads as the less devoted / more mercenary class... Well, that's the way I see it anyway. :) [/QUOTE]
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