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Message: <blockquote data-quote="TwinBahamut" data-source="post: 4592710" data-attributes="member: 32536">Well, as punishment for the death of Baldur, the Aesir did imprison Loki in the underworld (I think) and bind him so that the poison of a terrible snake will drip in his eyes for all of eternity, so I wouldn't say that they would "let him in the clubhouse"...That said, if Loki decided to use his powers to support someone who was doing great deeds in the name of the rest of the gods, I don't think they would mind. Ultimately, it just means that Loki is helping the other gods indirectly. Arguably, it should be Loki who might be the most ticked off about that (unless it served him too, of course). If we are talking about an evil Invoker calling upon the aid of the good gods, though, it is a different situation (and a fairly complex one).Also, if it helps at all, try looking at the figure of Saturn/Cronus in myth, particularly in the way he is seen as both the enemy of the gods, the bringer of a golden age to mankind (as the Roman saturn), and as a complex trickster figure who often distorts the prayers of mankind in ways they were not intended (as in "The Knight's Tale" from Chaucer's The Canterbury Tales). He wanders between patron to man and arguably evil tyrant of the gods in fairly complex ways.Finally, I agree that Hades is not an example of an evil god at all. Other than the kidnapping Persephone/bringing winter to the world thing, he is pretty much the just judge of the dead. He gave a surprisingly fair deal to Orpheus (the lesson of that one was to trust the gods, not that Hades was a bad guy), and he helped fight against the Titans.</blockquote>

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