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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 5544887" data-attributes="member: 82106">Oh, having run AD&D throughout its life I'm entirely sure I understand. See, all those fancy 'support spells' just never really actually ever got used. I mean there were a few that were used because the rules pretty much demanded it (Identify for instance). Higher level wizards might also have enough other resources to justify one or two others, but generally they were 'book spells', they made your character seem like a clever knowledgeable wizard but actually impacted play once in a blue moon. I'd say half of the 2e wizard spell list at every level I've never actually seen used in 20 years of play.So it isn't so much that rituals changed anything at all, they just split out the stuff nobody much bothers with into a separate bucket where people would notice that they aren't using it. Also note what people are usually asking for with rituals. They are asking for them to be turned into an infinitely usable set of powers basically (well, OK, people generally suggest 'a healing surge' as the cost). Obviously since they wouldn't occupy any kind of 'slot' they'd see more use than their AD&D counterparts, but I still doubt most of them would be used much.</blockquote>