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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9372658" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>So with respect (and I do respect you for real) Fluffy you absolutely cannot have it both ways.</p><p></p><p>Either you can have:</p><p></p><p>A) "There is nothing left of the original Bioware"</p><p></p><p>Or</p><p></p><p>B) "This is the people who did Anthem"</p><p></p><p>Pick one. Anthem was absolutely unquestionably done by "the original Bioware". Literally the same exact people who had primary roles on ME1-3, DAO/2/I and even SWTOR worked on Anthem. Do I need to go get Mobygames to show this?</p><p></p><p>The same is true for Andromeda.</p><p></p><p>The big exodus of old Bioware people was after that and sad to say, none of them have accomplished much of note yet (unlike, say, ex-Obsidian people like John Gonzalez.</p><p></p><p>I get that not everyone is a horrible nerd for the who's who of the games industry like I am but seriously wish people who don't keep track of the specifics would stop believing poppycock claims about who worked on what, especially when Mobygames is right there to check. Reddit for example is wall to wall with claims like you're repeating here so I can understand you assuming it was true - but let me be clear - it is not true.</p><p></p><p>Further we shouldn't overly lionize certain people unless we can show why. For example, the same guy who drove and lead the creation of Mass Effect drove and lead the creation of Anthem (Casey Hudson). Angel or devil lol?</p><p></p><p>If we want to be specific, too, the guy in charge of DA4 is Patrick Weekes. Patrick Weekes was responsible for some of the best writing in ME1-3, including Lair of the Shadow broker. He's also the guy who let ME fans know the dreadful ME3 ending was entirely written by Casey Hudson and Mac Walters with zero input from the rest of the team, so is arguably a major friend of ME fans, given that coming out was pivotal to Bioware redoing the ending. And he's absolutely old Bioware. Much of his team aren't.</p><p></p><p>But that's fine and normal. The only game company that has had the same leadership and lead devs for 15+ years, that I can think of is Bethesda Game Studios, and look at the utter car crash that was Starfield! Anticipate the car crash that will be TESVI!</p><p></p><p>I'm not saying skepticism isn't warranted. It is. But pick a lane re the devs and ignore the morons on Reddit because they're genuinely ignorant re who works where (even when they could choose not to be). Also we shouldn't have to much faith just because leadership doesn't change, because that's how we get Starfield or launch-era Cyberpunk 2077.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 9372658, member: 18"] So with respect (and I do respect you for real) Fluffy you absolutely cannot have it both ways. Either you can have: A) "There is nothing left of the original Bioware" Or B) "This is the people who did Anthem" Pick one. Anthem was absolutely unquestionably done by "the original Bioware". Literally the same exact people who had primary roles on ME1-3, DAO/2/I and even SWTOR worked on Anthem. Do I need to go get Mobygames to show this? The same is true for Andromeda. The big exodus of old Bioware people was after that and sad to say, none of them have accomplished much of note yet (unlike, say, ex-Obsidian people like John Gonzalez. I get that not everyone is a horrible nerd for the who's who of the games industry like I am but seriously wish people who don't keep track of the specifics would stop believing poppycock claims about who worked on what, especially when Mobygames is right there to check. Reddit for example is wall to wall with claims like you're repeating here so I can understand you assuming it was true - but let me be clear - it is not true. Further we shouldn't overly lionize certain people unless we can show why. For example, the same guy who drove and lead the creation of Mass Effect drove and lead the creation of Anthem (Casey Hudson). Angel or devil lol? If we want to be specific, too, the guy in charge of DA4 is Patrick Weekes. Patrick Weekes was responsible for some of the best writing in ME1-3, including Lair of the Shadow broker. He's also the guy who let ME fans know the dreadful ME3 ending was entirely written by Casey Hudson and Mac Walters with zero input from the rest of the team, so is arguably a major friend of ME fans, given that coming out was pivotal to Bioware redoing the ending. And he's absolutely old Bioware. Much of his team aren't. But that's fine and normal. The only game company that has had the same leadership and lead devs for 15+ years, that I can think of is Bethesda Game Studios, and look at the utter car crash that was Starfield! Anticipate the car crash that will be TESVI! I'm not saying skepticism isn't warranted. It is. But pick a lane re the devs and ignore the morons on Reddit because they're genuinely ignorant re who works where (even when they could choose not to be). Also we shouldn't have to much faith just because leadership doesn't change, because that's how we get Starfield or launch-era Cyberpunk 2077. [/QUOTE]
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