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<blockquote data-quote="Fieari" data-source="post: 1335425" data-attributes="member: 16221">INTRODUCTION--- (you can skip this bit if you want and look down towards the initial stats I had in mind if you like) Before I played Dungeons and Dragons, and even during, I played Freeform Online role playing games.&nbsp; When I find partners to play with that are skilled at the game, freeform roleplaying can be considerably more satisfying that games with a DM, because not only do you write your own stories, but you can write STORIES... using all kinds of literary sorts of things.&nbsp; It's not balanced or precise by any means, but if you can find the right person to play it with... well, it's amazing.The neat thing about D&amp;D though, is that it's a system of describing things in very small peices.&nbsp; What's neat about that is in order to understand something deeper, it helps to break it down into very small peices.&nbsp; This means that translating various things into D&amp;D terms is helpful towards comprehension.&nbsp; It also gives a sense of scale, and a benchmark for describing exactly what you are talking about.For lack of people to play with (to my satisfaction) nowadays, I've occasionally tried switiching to straight novel writting.&nbsp; But I think that my lack of precision is hindering me here.&nbsp; So I wish to translate my characters into D&amp;D terms, and for that, I hope to enlist aid here at ENWorld.&nbsp; At the same time, I still play D&amp;D (as a DM) and would love to put these characters in as NPCs somewhere.So.&nbsp; The BASIC concept is a race of Phoenii (phoenixes?)... but at the same time, not actually phoenii, in the strict avian sence.&nbsp; They appear human, at any rate.&nbsp; I've drawn from all kinds of sources to construct this race... immortal beings created by the Creator (the original) for the purpose of, well... plane maintenence.&nbsp; When a plane is destroyed, they're supposed to pick up the peices and reassemble them into a new world... that is to say, when a world dies, they make it reborn from its own ashes.&nbsp; World Phoenix, if you will.There are a LOT of specifics I have in mind, and will be posting them for critique as I go along, but for right now, I just wanted to establish a good stat progression.&nbsp; I'm using Gold Dragons as a balance comparision... my Phoenii are expected to reach a considerably older age than dragons, in fact, they're considered merely &quot;Adult&quot; when dragons become Elder Wyrms.&nbsp; However, I matched up the progression level with Dragons such before Adulthood, a Phoenix is WEAKER than a Dragon of the same age catagory (not same age)... and after adulthood, is STRONGER than a Dragon of the same age catagory.So, with that in mind, what do you think of the following:[code]Age&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Size&nbsp; &nbsp; Age?&nbsp; &nbsp; Age&nbsp; &nbsp; Fly?&nbsp; &nbsp; HD&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Natural AC&nbsp; &nbsp; --------------------------------------------------------------------------Extremely Young&nbsp; &nbsp; T&nbsp; &nbsp; 1&nbsp; &nbsp; 1&nbsp; &nbsp; NO&nbsp; &nbsp; 1d12&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 8* Very Young&nbsp; &nbsp; D&nbsp; &nbsp; 4&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; NO&nbsp; &nbsp; 2d12&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 18 Young&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; S&nbsp; &nbsp; 8&nbsp; &nbsp; 20&nbsp; &nbsp; NO&nbsp; &nbsp; 4d12+20&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 20Juvenile&nbsp; &nbsp; M&nbsp; &nbsp; 12&nbsp; &nbsp; 50&nbsp; &nbsp; CLMSY&nbsp; &nbsp; 8d12+70&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 23Young Adult&nbsp; &nbsp; M&nbsp; &nbsp; 16&nbsp; &nbsp; 100&nbsp; &nbsp; POOR&nbsp; &nbsp; 16d12+120&nbsp; &nbsp; 25Adult&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; M&nbsp; &nbsp; 20&nbsp; &nbsp; 1000&nbsp; &nbsp; AVG&nbsp; &nbsp; 32d12+170&nbsp; &nbsp; 30Mature Adult&nbsp; &nbsp; M&nbsp; &nbsp; 30&nbsp; &nbsp; 5K&nbsp; &nbsp; GOOD&nbsp; &nbsp; 40d12+220&nbsp; &nbsp; 35Old&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; M&nbsp; &nbsp; 40&nbsp; &nbsp; 10K&nbsp; &nbsp; PRFCT&nbsp; &nbsp; 50d12+270&nbsp; &nbsp; 40Very Old&nbsp; &nbsp; M&nbsp; &nbsp; 55&nbsp; &nbsp; 50K&nbsp; &nbsp; PRFCT&nbsp; &nbsp; 60d12+320&nbsp; &nbsp; 45Ancient&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; M&nbsp; &nbsp; 70&nbsp; &nbsp; 100K&nbsp; &nbsp; PRFCT&nbsp; &nbsp; 70d12+370&nbsp; &nbsp; 50High&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; M&nbsp; &nbsp; 85&nbsp; &nbsp; 500K&nbsp; &nbsp; PRFCT&nbsp; &nbsp; 90d12+420&nbsp; &nbsp; 55Great&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; M&nbsp; &nbsp; Any&nbsp; &nbsp; 1M&nbsp; &nbsp; PRFCT&nbsp; &nbsp; 100d12+500&nbsp; &nbsp; 60Age&nbsp; &nbsp; Attack&nbsp; &nbsp; Fort&nbsp; &nbsp; Ref&nbsp; &nbsp; Will&nbsp; &nbsp; Elem Wing**&nbsp; &nbsp; Caster&nbsp; &nbsp; Spell&nbsp; &nbsp; Bonus&nbsp; &nbsp; Save&nbsp; &nbsp; Save&nbsp; &nbsp; Save&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; (DC)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Level&nbsp; &nbsp; Resistance--------------------------------------------------------------------------E.Young&nbsp; &nbsp; -10&nbsp; &nbsp; -10&nbsp; &nbsp; -10&nbsp; &nbsp; +9&nbsp; &nbsp; 0d0(0)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 0&nbsp; &nbsp; 0V.Young&nbsp; &nbsp; -5&nbsp; &nbsp; -5&nbsp; &nbsp; -5&nbsp; &nbsp; +12&nbsp; &nbsp; 0d0(0)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 0&nbsp; &nbsp; 0Young&nbsp; &nbsp; +0&nbsp; &nbsp; +0&nbsp; &nbsp; +0&nbsp; &nbsp; +15&nbsp; &nbsp; 0d0(0)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 1&nbsp; &nbsp; 0Juvin&nbsp; &nbsp; +10&nbsp; &nbsp; +5&nbsp; &nbsp; +10&nbsp; &nbsp; +18&nbsp; &nbsp; 1d10(10)&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 10Y.Adult&nbsp; &nbsp; +20&nbsp; &nbsp; +10&nbsp; &nbsp; +15&nbsp; &nbsp; +21&nbsp; &nbsp; 2d10(15)&nbsp; &nbsp; 11&nbsp; &nbsp; 15Adult&nbsp; &nbsp; +30&nbsp; &nbsp; +20&nbsp; &nbsp; +20&nbsp; &nbsp; +24&nbsp; &nbsp; 4d10(20)&nbsp; &nbsp; 17&nbsp; &nbsp; 20M.Adult&nbsp; &nbsp; +35&nbsp; &nbsp; +25&nbsp; &nbsp; +25&nbsp; &nbsp; +27&nbsp; &nbsp; 8d10(25)&nbsp; &nbsp; 23&nbsp; &nbsp; 25Old&nbsp; &nbsp; +40&nbsp; &nbsp; +30&nbsp; &nbsp; +30&nbsp; &nbsp; +30&nbsp; &nbsp; 12d10(30)&nbsp; &nbsp; 26&nbsp; &nbsp; 30V.Old&nbsp; &nbsp; +45&nbsp; &nbsp; +35&nbsp; &nbsp; +35&nbsp; &nbsp; +33&nbsp; &nbsp; 16d10(35)&nbsp; &nbsp; 29&nbsp; &nbsp; 35Ancient&nbsp; &nbsp; +50&nbsp; &nbsp; +40&nbsp; &nbsp; +40&nbsp; &nbsp; +36&nbsp; &nbsp; 20d10(40)&nbsp; &nbsp; 32&nbsp; &nbsp; 40High&nbsp; &nbsp; +55&nbsp; &nbsp; +45&nbsp; &nbsp; +45&nbsp; &nbsp; +39&nbsp; &nbsp; 24d10(45)&nbsp; &nbsp; 35&nbsp; &nbsp; 45Great&nbsp; &nbsp; +60&nbsp; &nbsp; +50&nbsp; &nbsp; +50&nbsp; &nbsp; +42&nbsp; &nbsp; 28d10(50)&nbsp; &nbsp; 40&nbsp; &nbsp; 50Age&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Speed&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Str Dex Con Int Wis Cha---------------------------------------------------------Extremely Young&nbsp; &nbsp; 0ft&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 1&nbsp;&nbsp; 1&nbsp;&nbsp; 10&nbsp; 2&nbsp;&nbsp; 2&nbsp;&nbsp; 5Very Young&nbsp; &nbsp; 5ft&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp;&nbsp; 10&nbsp; 10&nbsp; 8&nbsp;&nbsp; 10&nbsp; 10Young&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 10ft&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 6&nbsp;&nbsp; 15&nbsp; 12&nbsp; 10&nbsp; 10&nbsp; 15Juvinile&nbsp; &nbsp; 30ft, fly 60ft&nbsp; &nbsp; 10&nbsp; 18&nbsp; 15&nbsp; 14&nbsp; 14&nbsp; 17Young Adult&nbsp; &nbsp; 30ft, fly 90ft&nbsp; &nbsp; 10&nbsp; 20&nbsp; 15&nbsp; 15&nbsp; 15&nbsp; 20Adult&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 30ft, fly 120ft&nbsp; &nbsp; 10&nbsp; 22&nbsp; 17&nbsp; 16&nbsp; 16&nbsp; 23Mature Adult&nbsp; &nbsp; 30ft, fly 150ft&nbsp; &nbsp; 10&nbsp; 22&nbsp; 17&nbsp; 16&nbsp; 17&nbsp; 26Old&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 30ft, fly 170ft&nbsp; &nbsp; 10&nbsp; 21&nbsp; 17&nbsp; 17&nbsp; 18&nbsp; 29Very Old&nbsp; &nbsp; 30ft, fly 200ft&nbsp; &nbsp; 10&nbsp; 20&nbsp; 17&nbsp; 17&nbsp; 19&nbsp; 32Ancient&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 30ft, fly 230ft&nbsp; &nbsp; 10&nbsp; 19&nbsp; 17&nbsp; 18&nbsp; 20&nbsp; 35High&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 30ft, fly 260ft&nbsp; &nbsp; 10&nbsp; 18&nbsp; 17&nbsp; 18&nbsp; 21&nbsp; 37Great&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 30ft, fly 300ft&nbsp; &nbsp; 10&nbsp; 25&nbsp; 20&nbsp; 20&nbsp; 22&nbsp; 40[/code]* Newborns are newborns... but even as babes in arms, they posess certain inherant traits... one of which is profound luck which protects them to a degree.&nbsp; The +8 AC for the infant is due to Deus Ex Machina.** This is to match the Dragon's breath weapon, to a degree.&nbsp; Instead of being a breath weapon though, these are the Phoenix's wings, which don't actually enable the &quot;bird&quot; to fly, but are mostly for show.&nbsp; Mostly.&nbsp; Since these wings are made up of an element (element determined by birth) they can be used as an attack... an attack which more or less matches a dragon's breath attack.Comments?&nbsp; Suggestions?&nbsp; Questions?&nbsp; Request for me to stop right here and not post the rest as I work it out from my notes?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Fieari, post: 1335425, member: 16221"] INTRODUCTION--- (you can skip this bit if you want and look down towards the initial stats I had in mind if you like) Before I played Dungeons and Dragons, and even during, I played Freeform Online role playing games. When I find partners to play with that are skilled at the game, freeform roleplaying can be considerably more satisfying that games with a DM, because not only do you write your own stories, but you can write STORIES... using all kinds of literary sorts of things. It's not balanced or precise by any means, but if you can find the right person to play it with... well, it's amazing. The neat thing about D&D though, is that it's a system of describing things in very small peices. What's neat about that is in order to understand something deeper, it helps to break it down into very small peices. This means that translating various things into D&D terms is helpful towards comprehension. It also gives a sense of scale, and a benchmark for describing exactly what you are talking about. For lack of people to play with (to my satisfaction) nowadays, I've occasionally tried switiching to straight novel writting. But I think that my lack of precision is hindering me here. So I wish to translate my characters into D&D terms, and for that, I hope to enlist aid here at ENWorld. At the same time, I still play D&D (as a DM) and would love to put these characters in as NPCs somewhere. So. The BASIC concept is a race of Phoenii (phoenixes?)... but at the same time, not actually phoenii, in the strict avian sence. They appear human, at any rate. I've drawn from all kinds of sources to construct this race... immortal beings created by the Creator (the original) for the purpose of, well... plane maintenence. When a plane is destroyed, they're supposed to pick up the peices and reassemble them into a new world... that is to say, when a world dies, they make it reborn from its own ashes. World Phoenix, if you will. There are a LOT of specifics I have in mind, and will be posting them for critique as I go along, but for right now, I just wanted to establish a good stat progression. I'm using Gold Dragons as a balance comparision... my Phoenii are expected to reach a considerably older age than dragons, in fact, they're considered merely "Adult" when dragons become Elder Wyrms. However, I matched up the progression level with Dragons such before Adulthood, a Phoenix is WEAKER than a Dragon of the same age catagory (not same age)... and after adulthood, is STRONGER than a Dragon of the same age catagory. So, with that in mind, what do you think of the following: [code]Age Size Age? Age Fly? HD Natural AC -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Extremely Young T 1 1 NO 1d12 8* Very Young D 4 5 NO 2d12 18 Young S 8 20 NO 4d12+20 20 Juvenile M 12 50 CLMSY 8d12+70 23 Young Adult M 16 100 POOR 16d12+120 25 Adult M 20 1000 AVG 32d12+170 30 Mature Adult M 30 5K GOOD 40d12+220 35 Old M 40 10K PRFCT 50d12+270 40 Very Old M 55 50K PRFCT 60d12+320 45 Ancient M 70 100K PRFCT 70d12+370 50 High M 85 500K PRFCT 90d12+420 55 Great M Any 1M PRFCT 100d12+500 60 Age Attack Fort Ref Will Elem Wing** Caster Spell Bonus Save Save Save (DC) Level Resistance -------------------------------------------------------------------------- E.Young -10 -10 -10 +9 0d0(0) 0 0 V.Young -5 -5 -5 +12 0d0(0) 0 0 Young +0 +0 +0 +15 0d0(0) 1 0 Juvin +10 +5 +10 +18 1d10(10) 5 10 Y.Adult +20 +10 +15 +21 2d10(15) 11 15 Adult +30 +20 +20 +24 4d10(20) 17 20 M.Adult +35 +25 +25 +27 8d10(25) 23 25 Old +40 +30 +30 +30 12d10(30) 26 30 V.Old +45 +35 +35 +33 16d10(35) 29 35 Ancient +50 +40 +40 +36 20d10(40) 32 40 High +55 +45 +45 +39 24d10(45) 35 45 Great +60 +50 +50 +42 28d10(50) 40 50 Age Speed Str Dex Con Int Wis Cha --------------------------------------------------------- Extremely Young 0ft 1 1 10 2 2 5 Very Young 5ft 5 10 10 8 10 10 Young 10ft 6 15 12 10 10 15 Juvinile 30ft, fly 60ft 10 18 15 14 14 17 Young Adult 30ft, fly 90ft 10 20 15 15 15 20 Adult 30ft, fly 120ft 10 22 17 16 16 23 Mature Adult 30ft, fly 150ft 10 22 17 16 17 26 Old 30ft, fly 170ft 10 21 17 17 18 29 Very Old 30ft, fly 200ft 10 20 17 17 19 32 Ancient 30ft, fly 230ft 10 19 17 18 20 35 High 30ft, fly 260ft 10 18 17 18 21 37 Great 30ft, fly 300ft 10 25 20 20 22 40[/code] * Newborns are newborns... but even as babes in arms, they posess certain inherant traits... one of which is profound luck which protects them to a degree. The +8 AC for the infant is due to Deus Ex Machina. ** This is to match the Dragon's breath weapon, to a degree. Instead of being a breath weapon though, these are the Phoenix's wings, which don't actually enable the "bird" to fly, but are mostly for show. Mostly. Since these wings are made up of an element (element determined by birth) they can be used as an attack... an attack which more or less matches a dragon's breath attack. Comments? Suggestions? Questions? Request for me to stop right here and not post the rest as I work it out from my notes? [/QUOTE]

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