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<blockquote data-quote="The Little Raven" data-source="post: 5405863" data-attributes="member: 10095"><p>I don't really get the moral outrage or the complaint about "new mechanics" (the article contains exactly zero new mechanics, just suggestions on using existing mechanics). Most of these are relatively tame compared to what I've seen D&D players describe for decades.</p><p></p><p>Imprisonment: Not exactly deserving of moral outrage.</p><p>Blinding: Cutting out someone's eyes is a bit on the graphic side, but blinding someone with a spell isn't. And even the cutting I don't find objectionable when dealing with things like beholders. The Bible has Jesus blinding Paul with light on the road to Damascus until Paul did what he was supposed to. Kids are taught that all the time.</p><p>Crippled: This one is rather graphic, as the only options listed are straight up physical mutilation. Adding in some kind of magical malaise would help soften parts of it, but this is one I can understand making people uneasy.</p><p>Cursed: Fairly common in children's stories the world round.</p><p>Cut Off From Magic: Gandalf did this to Saruman when he broke his staff. This happened to Voldemort when he tried to kill Harry.</p><p>Denied a Patron: You get the guy fired or cut him off from his supernatural power ATM.</p><p>Eternal Torment: Sounds bad, but it's nothing children aren't taught everyday around the world through Bible study. Lake of fire and all that.</p><p>Isolated: The physical mutilation options are a bit graphic, but the telepathic disruption of linguistic capabilities isn't.</p><p>Malicious Polymorph: No worse than I've seen referenced in a classic children's movie. Return to Oz, the scene in the Nome King's treasury.</p><p>Oubliette: Just a variation on imprisonment, except you intend the person to never be released.</p><p>Petrification: I don't really find it morally objectionable. It's actually one of the nicer options.</p><p>Plague: This one's a bit messy, as disease is some truly scary stuff.</p><p>To the Pain: No worse than I've seen referenced in a classic children's movie. The Princess Bride, the climax scene.</p><p>Torn From History: Cool and evocative.</p><p>Transmogrification: Turning a villain into a frog oror something like that is relatively common in children's stories.</p><p>Waters of Lethe: I've seen a few kid's stories use this device to make a villain into an ally.</p><p>Worldbound: Dude can't leave the world. Big deal.</p><p></p><p>So, yeah, I totally see why someone said that several of the options were appropriate for Heroes of Hesiod, since several of the options come straight out of children's stories.</p><p></p><p>Much ado about nothing.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Little Raven, post: 5405863, member: 10095"] I don't really get the moral outrage or the complaint about "new mechanics" (the article contains exactly zero new mechanics, just suggestions on using existing mechanics). Most of these are relatively tame compared to what I've seen D&D players describe for decades. Imprisonment: Not exactly deserving of moral outrage. Blinding: Cutting out someone's eyes is a bit on the graphic side, but blinding someone with a spell isn't. And even the cutting I don't find objectionable when dealing with things like beholders. The Bible has Jesus blinding Paul with light on the road to Damascus until Paul did what he was supposed to. Kids are taught that all the time. Crippled: This one is rather graphic, as the only options listed are straight up physical mutilation. Adding in some kind of magical malaise would help soften parts of it, but this is one I can understand making people uneasy. Cursed: Fairly common in children's stories the world round. Cut Off From Magic: Gandalf did this to Saruman when he broke his staff. This happened to Voldemort when he tried to kill Harry. Denied a Patron: You get the guy fired or cut him off from his supernatural power ATM. Eternal Torment: Sounds bad, but it's nothing children aren't taught everyday around the world through Bible study. Lake of fire and all that. Isolated: The physical mutilation options are a bit graphic, but the telepathic disruption of linguistic capabilities isn't. Malicious Polymorph: No worse than I've seen referenced in a classic children's movie. Return to Oz, the scene in the Nome King's treasury. Oubliette: Just a variation on imprisonment, except you intend the person to never be released. Petrification: I don't really find it morally objectionable. It's actually one of the nicer options. Plague: This one's a bit messy, as disease is some truly scary stuff. To the Pain: No worse than I've seen referenced in a classic children's movie. The Princess Bride, the climax scene. Torn From History: Cool and evocative. Transmogrification: Turning a villain into a frog oror something like that is relatively common in children's stories. Waters of Lethe: I've seen a few kid's stories use this device to make a villain into an ally. Worldbound: Dude can't leave the world. Big deal. So, yeah, I totally see why someone said that several of the options were appropriate for Heroes of Hesiod, since several of the options come straight out of children's stories. Much ado about nothing. [/QUOTE]
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