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<blockquote data-quote="Imaro" data-source="post: 5406039" data-attributes="member: 48965">I think a better question would be... Would you find it enjoyable to roleplay through some of these &quot;punishments&quot; with your children... or have another player describe, in graphic detail,these actions in a game they were participating in? Especially since technically there are no mechanical drawbacks in 4e for one's behavior? And before you answer, please think about the fact that these could be inflicted for reasons both petty and major on a variety of villains of differeing gender, age and motivation.&nbsp;Personally I don't particularly relish the thought of roleplaying the detailed blinding of an enemy by my 10 year old son's Slayer... or going through the details of how he mutilates the body of a beaten enemy... I agree that many of the suggestions aren't that bad... but claiming it's... &quot;much ado about nothing&quot; may be just a little dismissive. I think a simple note about the article containing &quot;mature subject matter&quot; would have been sufficient for most people.&nbsp;On a side note... I don't get this. I thought 4e's design philosophy was about HEROIC action... you know one of the reasons they didn't want to do up monster races for players (But torturing, mutilating, etc. is ok.). I personally wouldn't have a problem with the suggestions in a campaign of mature individuals where we agreed the tone would be on the dark side... but as a general article for D&amp;D... not so sure what I think of it on the whole, it's not particularly innovative or original.... so, meh... is more my feelings towards it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Imaro, post: 5406039, member: 48965"] I think a better question would be... Would you find it enjoyable to roleplay through some of these "punishments" with your children... or have another player describe, in graphic detail,these actions in a game they were participating in? Especially since technically there are no mechanical drawbacks in 4e for one's behavior? And before you answer, please think about the fact that these could be inflicted for reasons both petty and major on a variety of villains of differeing gender, age and motivation. Personally I don't particularly relish the thought of roleplaying the detailed blinding of an enemy by my 10 year old son's Slayer... or going through the details of how he mutilates the body of a beaten enemy... I agree that many of the suggestions aren't that bad... but claiming it's... "much ado about nothing" may be just a little dismissive. I think a simple note about the article containing "mature subject matter" would have been sufficient for most people. On a side note... I don't get this. I thought 4e's design philosophy was about [B]HEROIC[/B] action... you know one of the reasons they didn't want to do up monster races for players (But torturing, mutilating, etc. is ok.). I personally wouldn't have a problem with the suggestions in a campaign of mature individuals where we agreed the tone would be on the dark side... but as a general article for D&D... not so sure what I think of it on the whole, it's not particularly innovative or original.... so, meh... is more my feelings towards it. [/QUOTE]

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