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Message: <blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 5406169" data-attributes="member: 2067">There's more than one psychological experiment that traipses into dark territory about this. There's something about the agency involved here that is especially on the troubling side. I would have serious concerns about a player who was really happy about some of these things, and it would make the table kind of an uneasy place. It's actually a place uniquely suited to role-playing games, too. Computer games, fairy tales, and cartoons don't give you the same agency that a game like D&D does. To me, those more disturbing options play into the whole "Book of Erotic Fantasy" place for me. It's Fade-to-Black material. I don't want vivid descriptions of gouging out eyes any more than I want FATAL wang circumference rules. It's not something I want PC's gleefully doing to their foes, because it goes beyond mere role-playing into some more troubling territory. If D&D is partially about fantasy fulfillment, I'm not sure I want to play the game with people whose fantasy is to humiliate, mutilate, and maim their enemies in great detail. That's Not Fun for me, and those who it is great fun for I would probably not feel very comfortable with. I could see a little bit in some niche character concepts, but I don't think there needs to be a lot there. And I say this as someone who is quite comfortable with dark material (see, for ex, that story in my status!). I don't think the article overall is especially disturbing, but I really wonder about the author......and about a D&D game that on the one hand, dismisses evil PC's because of an emphasis on the HEROIC, but embraces this stuff....</blockquote>

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