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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Impeesa" data-source="post: 160227" data-attributes="member: 498">Like I said, I can see that working as a chain of epic feats, but a prestige class can be made to work just as well.Subdual damage? Why? They put their power into it, using too much drains them. Simple as that. Control over amount of damage: Check, covered by how much ki you put into it. Uses per day: Depends on how much you're putting into them. Look at when Goku first fights Vegeta, he says at one point "That was my last bit of energy." Meaning he's out. Physical power? No, no, no. The set attribute in Dragonball - for everything - was ki. Power level? What do you think they were measuring, muscle mass? No, that was their ki. In the original Japanese version, IIRC, they don't even say 'power level', they say 'ki'. Nappa was a Saiyan elite, of course his ki was high enough to defend against a pathetic suicide attack from such a weak character. Now, physical strength does increase with higher ki levels, but so does endurance and speed. If you're that picky, look at your facts and not just spelling. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Not exactly... even the SSJ transformation is only about a x10 or x15 increase in power, and of Kaio-ken x20 was more powerful than SSJ1, Goku would have had quite the edge on Frieza way earlier. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />Or low initial prerequisites, and slower scaling...Even though Goku was able to learn them quite early on... nobody else even bothered. As for how it would work, I like the method from that Rifts conversion there.... same as any other energy blast, except that you can spend more time to gather more ki from elsewhere.Personally, I would make them only available to monks, possible fighters and psychic warriors... but that's just me. I suppose if you're willing to acknowledge the idea of 8BT-style mages who happen to be particularly physically fit and like tossing around Hadokens, that's your prerogative. Personally, I think these sort of techniques would only be available to someone whose primary focus was that sort of martial/spiritual training (no, not clerics... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />).We're talking about world-shattering powers once they reach, oh, level 60-80. Everone on the show just happens to advance at insane rates. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> It should be easy to scale things so that by level 20 or so, a PC fight on the same sort of level as Goku, Piccolo, and Raditz at the very beginning of DBZ.--Impeesa--</blockquote>

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