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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Anubis" data-source="post: 164478" data-attributes="member: 2358">I've given all of this a lot of thought.  Honestly, there is NO WAY to convert from Dragonball directly to D&D.  As a friend of mine said when I asked "How do you convert Super Saiyans to D&D terms?", "YOU DON'T."Akira Toriyama, the Dragonball creator, had specific "calculations" through the Frieza Saga, but after that, the calculations were dropped because it just didn't work once the numbers got to the millions.  He tried to reintroduce calculations during the Babadi Saga, using smaller overall numbers, but that didn't last long at all.  There is NO WAY to calculate the powers in small terms such as in D&D.I don't accept that, but there is a ground rule that must be followed.  To "convert" Dragonball to D&D, you must de-power EVERYTHING in Dragonball.  Here is why . . .Roshi, likely a Level 30 Monk or more (having trained for over a hundred years), had a Fighting Power of (I think) 189 at the beginning of the Saiyan Saga (Dragonball Z's starting point).  Goku, far less trained, had a Fighting Power of (I think) 430.  By the end of the Saiyan Saga, Goku and Vegeta both broke the 20,000 mark.  On scale, that would make them both Level 300.  Obviously, that simply doesn't work.The base point would be the deities, because that is the closest thing in power.  Majin Buu was able to kill the Dragonball equivilant to Greater Deities, and his *estimated* Fighting Power would be around 500,000,000.  (This comes from the Frieza Saga on.  Goku broke over 7,000,000 after going Super Saiyan, and during the Android Saga, Vegeta bypasses him by three times as much power, only to have Gohan become ten times more powerful after going Super Saiyan 2.  Goku and Vegeta both leveled out during the World Tournament Saga at a higher Fighting Power than Gohan, which would put them at about 200,000,000.  Majin Buu was considerably more powerful at that point, and when Goku went Super Saiyan 3, he STILL didn't have enough power alone to defeat the initial form of Majin Buu.)Thus, everything must be de-powered, except for Super Saiyan levels, if you put Saiyans in your campaign.  Going Super Saiyan 3, which is the highest level in Toriyama's Dragonball work (which ends with Dragonball Z and thus does NOT include Dragonball GT) would give I think the equivilant of Character Level x 3 in Divine Ranks.  Super Saiyan 2 would make it Level x 2, and so on and so forth.  This is not counting the various mid-levels of Super Saiyan abilities, such as Ultimate Super Saiyan and Mystic Super Saiyan.The powers would have to be feats, and those are what would be de-powered.  Hope this helps.</blockquote>

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