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<blockquote data-quote="Sorrowdusk" data-source="post: 6200163" data-attributes="member: 96342"><p>Does anyone know what they are, the passage doesnt seem clear to me.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The table doesnt give DCs in it, though it gives for example Blue Draconic ancestry, and says its a Dex save.</p><p></p><p>But where does the save come from?</p><p></p><p>Is it based on the Dragonborn's CON, or is it based on the same stat?</p><p></p><p>So those that require Dex saves are based on the dragonborn's dex (10+Dex mod) which makes some sense, in that it has to be dextrous to try to get the maximum fire on you. Or Green Draconic blood is a poison which requires a Con save, and how toxic it can be is determined by the dragonborn's Con.</p><p></p><p>Breath weapons dont seem to come up anywhere in the playtest packet, and there's no guessing from the bestiary, as I cant determine what stats ought to increase a the save dc of any listed creatures breath weapon, or reverse engineer how it was derived. I mean for Black Dragon (full blood) their save DC is 16 but we all know Dragons have bad Dex usually, and it does, it's 10. If the base save were 10, where does the +6 come from? Blue Dragon has +2 higher CR but its Breath weapon DC is 3 points LOWER. </p><p></p><p>It should be derived from its statistics (and/or proficiency bonus based on HD?) but it looks arbitrary and so provides no hints. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/ponder.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":hmm:" title="Hmmm :hmm:" data-shortname=":hmm:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sorrowdusk, post: 6200163, member: 96342"] Does anyone know what they are, the passage doesnt seem clear to me. The table doesnt give DCs in it, though it gives for example Blue Draconic ancestry, and says its a Dex save. But where does the save come from? Is it based on the Dragonborn's CON, or is it based on the same stat? So those that require Dex saves are based on the dragonborn's dex (10+Dex mod) which makes some sense, in that it has to be dextrous to try to get the maximum fire on you. Or Green Draconic blood is a poison which requires a Con save, and how toxic it can be is determined by the dragonborn's Con. Breath weapons dont seem to come up anywhere in the playtest packet, and there's no guessing from the bestiary, as I cant determine what stats ought to increase a the save dc of any listed creatures breath weapon, or reverse engineer how it was derived. I mean for Black Dragon (full blood) their save DC is 16 but we all know Dragons have bad Dex usually, and it does, it's 10. If the base save were 10, where does the +6 come from? Blue Dragon has +2 higher CR but its Breath weapon DC is 3 points LOWER. It should be derived from its statistics (and/or proficiency bonus based on HD?) but it looks arbitrary and so provides no hints. :hmm: [/QUOTE]
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