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Message: <blockquote data-quote="borble" data-source="post: 3402906" data-attributes="member: 49967">ahh finally to the editing stage of this argument, I am glad we are finally making progressnp, I am not always sure if some ones jelling at me on the internet, so i take all not quite blatant forward insults as talk, also i edited the spell list to make it combat oriented, except for the custom spellsso you think i should remove this spell line and add the one from phb in at lvl 1, ill look it over and get back to you.kkok ill remove true strike, you have a good point. well i am not entirely going for eragon class, its just built on that, its not the ultimate goal, the ultimate goal it to balance it.i think i will leave it hear, because its really more fit for this class the a wizard.alter self it more powerful, and this is only ment to be used inside a dungeon, because the player isn’t complete in a dungeon without the dragon and ultimately vary weeki will remove Touch of Idiocy, but again acid arrow is vary combat orientedlol ya, but i think i will leave it in because, eragon did it.....and not all people have memorized the phb like you seem to have,......and to clog things upok i see your point, plus it doesn’t seem to be the way a dragon caster, would employ damage.where is this other spell located?ok good point but i think i will leave str,dex,and cha, because those are the stats this class use………blahhhhhhhhhhlol <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":P" title="Stick out tongue    :P"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":P" />eragon is not the objective of this class, balence is. so how much cash for a dragon saddle with these or no buffs........ill make the items.so ill make it immune to spy spells of its level?quite simply, a spell line, if you think that a spell line is not required and just the epic spell is good then i can fix it, but they are in there to explain the epic spell.so move it up a lvl? i am not removing it.i got dragon armor from complete divine, and that was a 1st lvl spells. i am not itemizing this spell, but maybe hast i can remove.they are battle oriented that’s why they are the best spells, because the best spells are combat oriented. but this one can go.this is for say sneaking up on a sentry in a dungeon or something of the likes, i like it because its combat orientedyes it is and this spell screams wizard anyway so i can go also.but this isn’t that class and so it early doesn’t completely applythis class was originally:up to 6th lvl spells like a bard, should i give you the web page, its really came along way since then. and so i never cut 0 lvl spells and it really doesn’t make much of a difference.i have, look at spells true name, no casting when cant speak or without wining knowledge dragon check.hello? dwarfs? do you think dwarfs use medium armor a lot, so what if it LOOKED like medium they played it as heavy mithral probably. sorry I am not so motivated to say my point this this black background. it sucks the energy and will out of me..........no comment.........i have a lot of editing to do..............shal i list the dead lvls? dead lvls on the chart=2,3,5,7,8,11,12,13,17,18dead lvls on the chart including repeat ability’s= all except for 1,4,6,20dead lvls on the spell chart= 1,2,3,5,8dead lvls on the dragon chart (for a black dragon)=3,4,6,11,13,15,17now add them all up and the lvls you gain nothing are= 3 .....well i though that number was bigger........well that sounds like it would work, ill...... go.....edit it.........eventually.......well the character really doesn’t have a choice what color dragon he gets........the dragon chooses him. Should i make a chart telling you how to get your dragon, to make it so the dm cant be spiteful and cripple the dragon, or the player cant chose a high mighty dragon (oh and my dragon feats and dragon chart make the lesser dragons less of a drag).ok ok, limit spells got it.on the contrary i think this spat of posts is really helping my class grow (even though this post has taken me 45 minuets to type).i love your advice this is really helping me eliminate the "bugs on this video game."thanks ill get to the changes.......eventually.....meaning ugggggggg not right now <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":P" title="Stick out tongue    :P"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":P" />benP.S. they fixed the bugs in the attachment file so I got the printers version up and running <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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