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<blockquote data-quote="demiurgeastaroth" data-source="post: 899703" data-attributes="member: 7532"><p>To me, what the text in MMII means, is that if the dragon rolls a 1 on its recharge roll, it acts the very next round, because it has indeed waited one round.</p><p>Hypersmurf's example of haste gives one example of why the "wait till next round" limit is needed.</p><p></p><p>The recent discussion of DnD sequential actions and lack of simultaneity take is to the explanatoion of why this is so.</p><p></p><p>Example:</p><p>Dragon breathes in 1 round. Rolls a 1 for recharge.</p><p>Next round: dragon must wait 1 round, so cannot breath.</p><p></p><p>However...</p><p></p><p>This assumes that when the dragon acted, it's action lasted some time between the begining of its last turn and the beginning of next turn. </p><p>However, this assumes "beginning of action" is a phrase that has meaning. In DnD, I submit it doesn't.</p><p>The beginning, middle, and end of an action all occur instantly - out of time.</p><p></p><p>What actually happens:</p><p></p><p>Round 1: Initiative 20, the Dragon acts. </p><p>This action is instantanous, taking no time. Before this initaitive moment, the dragon is frozen in time. After this initiative moment, the dragon is again frozen. Somewhere between, the dragon acted - moving, breathing, casting spells, whatever, - it all happened in an instant.</p><p>Round 2: Initiative 20, the dragon again acts. Since it has been frozen, waiting, for one entire round, it may now breath again.</p><p></p><p>While not acting, the dragon isn't lierally frozen (it might make opportunity attacks, etc), but for the purposes of the initiative system, it is.</p><p></p><p>That's why I said, oh so long ago <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />, that I see no conflict between the MMII text and other sources.</p><p></p><p>Darren</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="demiurgeastaroth, post: 899703, member: 7532"] To me, what the text in MMII means, is that if the dragon rolls a 1 on its recharge roll, it acts the very next round, because it has indeed waited one round. Hypersmurf's example of haste gives one example of why the "wait till next round" limit is needed. The recent discussion of DnD sequential actions and lack of simultaneity take is to the explanatoion of why this is so. Example: Dragon breathes in 1 round. Rolls a 1 for recharge. Next round: dragon must wait 1 round, so cannot breath. However... This assumes that when the dragon acted, it's action lasted some time between the begining of its last turn and the beginning of next turn. However, this assumes "beginning of action" is a phrase that has meaning. In DnD, I submit it doesn't. The beginning, middle, and end of an action all occur instantly - out of time. What actually happens: Round 1: Initiative 20, the Dragon acts. This action is instantanous, taking no time. Before this initaitive moment, the dragon is frozen in time. After this initiative moment, the dragon is again frozen. Somewhere between, the dragon acted - moving, breathing, casting spells, whatever, - it all happened in an instant. Round 2: Initiative 20, the dragon again acts. Since it has been frozen, waiting, for one entire round, it may now breath again. While not acting, the dragon isn't lierally frozen (it might make opportunity attacks, etc), but for the purposes of the initiative system, it is. That's why I said, oh so long ago ;), that I see no conflict between the MMII text and other sources. Darren [/QUOTE]
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