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<blockquote data-quote="nonsi256" data-source="post: 5266356" data-attributes="member: 86164"><p>.</p><p>Your suggestion will basically make dragons go from [high-damage battlefield control] to SUPERNOVA (One-Shot-One-Kill), which could easily turn out to be TPK, unless they're prepared (and then "big ole' frightening dragon" loses its main asset).</p><p></p><p>Routine supernova encounters are bad for the same reason one shouldn't put the climax of a story in the beginning of the book.</p><p></p><p></p><p>With all the supplement books there (Dragon Magic, Draconomicon, Races of the Dragon etc), there are already plenty of metabreath feats and other means to make breath weapon in particular and dragons in general truly terrifying, even without pumping up the base damage.</p><p></p><p></p><p>If you're trying to catch that "vicious primordial beasts" spirit, what you could do is to replace spellcasting with something more innate, such as invocations (not including Eldritch Blast) and/or incarnum and/or maneuvers.</p><p>With the right cocktail, you could obtain the theme you're looking for without changing the overall CR too much.</p><p></p><p></p><p>And it would also be more appropriate ecology-wise, because 3e dragons (supreme Int + overwhelming spellcasting) should've reigned supreme rather than stand by and "let those puny humanoids spawn everywhere and infest & despoil the world".</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="nonsi256, post: 5266356, member: 86164"] . Your suggestion will basically make dragons go from [high-damage battlefield control] to SUPERNOVA (One-Shot-One-Kill), which could easily turn out to be TPK, unless they're prepared (and then "big ole' frightening dragon" loses its main asset). Routine supernova encounters are bad for the same reason one shouldn't put the climax of a story in the beginning of the book. With all the supplement books there (Dragon Magic, Draconomicon, Races of the Dragon etc), there are already plenty of metabreath feats and other means to make breath weapon in particular and dragons in general truly terrifying, even without pumping up the base damage. If you're trying to catch that "vicious primordial beasts" spirit, what you could do is to replace spellcasting with something more innate, such as invocations (not including Eldritch Blast) and/or incarnum and/or maneuvers. With the right cocktail, you could obtain the theme you're looking for without changing the overall CR too much. And it would also be more appropriate ecology-wise, because 3e dragons (supreme Int + overwhelming spellcasting) should've reigned supreme rather than stand by and "let those puny humanoids spawn everywhere and infest & despoil the world". [/QUOTE]
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