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<blockquote data-quote="Axiomatic Unicorn" data-source="post: 99743" data-attributes="member: 1974">??????I agree with you that the presented tactics would be highly unlikely to work.I am not certain how that makes wanting to work on solid dragon tactics silly.If the CR25 is presumed correct, then 4 25th level characters should destroy the dragon with relative ease.&nbsp; I do not consider it a stretch to further estimate that 6 20th levels characters could not handle it.&nbsp; They may face some danger, but the odds are highly in their favor.And that is fine.&nbsp; A superior force should always be expected to slay the dragon.&nbsp; I don't like B.A.D.D. because I think that the dragon has some imperative that it must win.&nbsp; I like B.A.D.D. because it is SILLY when a group of chars wipes out a dragon with ease because it was played stupidly.If the players defeat a dragon that is played well, they have accomplished something.&nbsp;&nbsp; I WANT the dragons to die.&nbsp; But I want them to die gloriously.&nbsp; I do not want them to be simply disposed of.A Great Wyrm in an open air toe-to-toe with 6 L20 chars is dead meat.&nbsp; I don't care if the DM has the tactical mind of Hannibal.I am curious why these players are afraid of a fair fight!?!&nbsp; heh</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Axiomatic Unicorn, post: 99743, member: 1974"] ?????? I agree with you that the presented tactics would be highly unlikely to work. I am not certain how that makes wanting to work on solid dragon tactics silly. If the CR25 is presumed correct, then 4 25th level characters should destroy the dragon with relative ease. I do not consider it a stretch to further estimate that 6 20th levels characters could not handle it. They may face some danger, but the odds are highly in their favor. And that is fine. A superior force should always be expected to slay the dragon. I don't like B.A.D.D. because I think that the dragon has some imperative that it must win. I like B.A.D.D. because it is SILLY when a group of chars wipes out a dragon with ease because it was played stupidly. If the players defeat a dragon that is played well, they have accomplished something. I WANT the dragons to die. But I want them to die gloriously. I do not want them to be simply disposed of. A Great Wyrm in an open air toe-to-toe with 6 L20 chars is dead meat. I don't care if the DM has the tactical mind of Hannibal. I am curious why these players are afraid of a fair fight!?! heh [/QUOTE]

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