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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Greenfield" data-source="post: 6780024" data-attributes="member: 6669384">Well, the Wyvern is listed as a CR 6, 7 HD monster, but a total ECl (Equivalent/Effective Class Level) of 12.Such a creature taking a subservient role to a PC two or three levels lower than itself is indeed hard to justify, in terms of story.In our game world, there was a time when every great army/empire counted some form of drake or dragon within the ranks of the armed forces.  Giant Eagles and Owls were good as scouts and messengers, but for combat the dragons owned the skies.  Then, about fifty years ago there was a major problem in the world, and it turned out that at least one of the factions behind the issue was the "Lord of Dragons".  When this was discovered, dragons within the ranks rebelled and broke loose.  They are now listed among the default enemies of all civilized races.A Wyvern is a dragon type, but just stupid enough to be raised and trained as a war mount.  Even that is risky, because they're brighter than animals (INT 6), so they aren't just trained beasts.  They could be spies, they might turn on their riders or those training them.This player wanted to bring in a PC whose backstory was that he had been a Wyvern rider, and had been allowed to leave the service, taking his mount with him.  Kind of unlikely that the Roman army would part with such a rare and valuable creature, since their main aerial combat beasts were now history.In any case, once we ran the numbers we saw that, because he'd taken some lizard type with a +2 ECL, he wouldn't have the levels to have a Wyvern as a cohort, no matter what.</blockquote>

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