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<blockquote data-quote="N'raac" data-source="post: 6783642" data-attributes="member: 6681948"><p>I think (c) is more relevant here than (a) or (b). I recall Artoo noting Luke's course was wrong for the rendezvous point, but not any discussion of "stealing" the X-Wing (or "going AWOL" - I think the Rebellion was largely a volunteer effort anyway). No one ever commented on it later - he just spent however much time he spent in training, looking for Han, etc. culminating in the Jabba's Palace infiltration at the start of RoTJ. And who knew he was a Jedi Knight? For that matter, who had the authority to confer that title on him? I don't think Yoda made weekly dispatches to Rebellion HQ. I suspect a lot of Rebellion members shared Han and Tarkin's vision of the Jedi and the Sith.</p><p></p><p>Something must have happened in the interim, as their return to Rebellion HQ didn't attract any stares on-screen, and Lando seemed to have a pretty high position in the Rebellion (just by virtue of being Obi-Wan's player's new character?). Somehow, Han moved from "mercenary who's here for a bit, but skipping back to his old life" at the start of ESB" to "General Solo" while encased in carbonite (well, he must have made name level, so he's a General, however thin the in world justification). How come all the guys caught up (maybe also passed) Leia in the rebel hierarchy?</p><p></p><p>In any case, I don't see why the Wyvern Rider is any less entitled to PC Halo than Luke, Han and Lando are. He's one of the "Luke/Han/Lando's" of this game world.</p><p></p><p>I agree with Greenfield's concerns about balance, but if those can be addressed, the player is spending a resource (a feat) to be allowed an advantage (the wyvern). Make it happen.</p><p></p><p>Another tangent: Sounds like acceptance that the Pegasus and Wyvern being sent away when it would be plot-inconvenient for the PC's to have access to flight. Would we be so accepting if Fly spells stopped working, as did the wings of a PC of an unusual race? The classic "well, I want a long travel scenario, so teleportation mysteriously can't get you there" is a similar situation. I'm also recalling "special sleep spells" that worked on elves.</p><p></p><p>I think the player spending character resources (I'm not clear the Pegasus rider did, but the wyvern rider spent a feat) is entitled to use those resources. But every game has to come to a balance between "player resources and agency" and "make the game work". If I were the wyvern rider, and I was expected to send the wyvern away whenever it would really shine, I'd be pretty unhappy, but once in a while would not bother me.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="N'raac, post: 6783642, member: 6681948"] I think (c) is more relevant here than (a) or (b). I recall Artoo noting Luke's course was wrong for the rendezvous point, but not any discussion of "stealing" the X-Wing (or "going AWOL" - I think the Rebellion was largely a volunteer effort anyway). No one ever commented on it later - he just spent however much time he spent in training, looking for Han, etc. culminating in the Jabba's Palace infiltration at the start of RoTJ. And who knew he was a Jedi Knight? For that matter, who had the authority to confer that title on him? I don't think Yoda made weekly dispatches to Rebellion HQ. I suspect a lot of Rebellion members shared Han and Tarkin's vision of the Jedi and the Sith. Something must have happened in the interim, as their return to Rebellion HQ didn't attract any stares on-screen, and Lando seemed to have a pretty high position in the Rebellion (just by virtue of being Obi-Wan's player's new character?). Somehow, Han moved from "mercenary who's here for a bit, but skipping back to his old life" at the start of ESB" to "General Solo" while encased in carbonite (well, he must have made name level, so he's a General, however thin the in world justification). How come all the guys caught up (maybe also passed) Leia in the rebel hierarchy? In any case, I don't see why the Wyvern Rider is any less entitled to PC Halo than Luke, Han and Lando are. He's one of the "Luke/Han/Lando's" of this game world. I agree with Greenfield's concerns about balance, but if those can be addressed, the player is spending a resource (a feat) to be allowed an advantage (the wyvern). Make it happen. Another tangent: Sounds like acceptance that the Pegasus and Wyvern being sent away when it would be plot-inconvenient for the PC's to have access to flight. Would we be so accepting if Fly spells stopped working, as did the wings of a PC of an unusual race? The classic "well, I want a long travel scenario, so teleportation mysteriously can't get you there" is a similar situation. I'm also recalling "special sleep spells" that worked on elves. I think the player spending character resources (I'm not clear the Pegasus rider did, but the wyvern rider spent a feat) is entitled to use those resources. But every game has to come to a balance between "player resources and agency" and "make the game work". If I were the wyvern rider, and I was expected to send the wyvern away whenever it would really shine, I'd be pretty unhappy, but once in a while would not bother me. [/QUOTE]
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