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Message: <blockquote data-quote="cangrejoide" data-source="post: 4935934" data-attributes="member: 62237">Anecdotal data is anecdotal data.WOTC didnt abandon you anymore than they abandoned the people of 1st edition when 2nd came out or 2nd when 3E came out. And really 4E=Wow?. Really?IMHO: If anything, 4E caters to the older crowd, I for example no longer have 3 hours to design NPCs/Encounters. The new way of 4E makes me do this in 10 mins tops(have done the night's adventure in 30 mins) and with the extra stuff from DDI this easeness of play extends to the players themselves. I DM a table of 6 people on avg, and the youngest one there is 36. All of them have sworn off any 3E incarnation, with some citing that 4E reminds them more of when we used to play 1st edition way back then.So you see, everygroup's experience is totally subjective. Either 4E/pathfinder fails or wins, doesnt matter. Just play what you like and let other be.live and let live.If Pathfinder could sell the same amount of books the lowest selling book from wotc did, they would have been ultra successful. Can you not undertsand the different in magnitudes between both companies sales?Pathfinder is a success because they found their niche in the market. As long as they can mantain that niche they can last years, look at Palladium they been in business 20+ years. Paizo will be the Palladium of 3E.</blockquote>