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<blockquote data-quote="Alzrius" data-source="post: 1223852" data-attributes="member: 8461"><p>You're missing my point: mechanics assume nothing inherent to the setting because they don't tell you anything "fluff" about the character. Say you have rules for a fire-mage PrC. You can still use that PrC in your campaign however you want. Are they a secretive organization of protectors? A group of pyromaniacs? Something else? The mechanics of the PrC (and anything else) stand on their own however you use them in the campaign. Hence, rules assume nothing inherent to the setting.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I disagree, since DMs can use "player" content for their NPCs, and for whatever reason, even players like reading about things like new monsters, etc.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Influenced isn't the same thing as setting it entirely. I still feel that people will feel what they want to, and outside influences are only as functional as people let them be. Someone who believes in role-playing over roll-playing isn't going to be swayed to having a regular subscription to <em>Dragon</em> no matter how great its new mechanical articles are.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This comment opens up a horribly nebulous mire. You're inferring that the fact that 3E does this to be a bad thing. But you could just as easily say that its that 3E does this that makes it superior to all those other RPGs. Some people may like it that they have more structure to things that were formerly left without mechanics. I certainly do. This one is much to relative to make a judgement call on.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>True, but you could just as easily say that we're the sample for the larger whole. A smaller percentage of a homogenous group is generally accurate for the larger whole. I think that the debate that goes on here is a pretty good sampling of how the entirety of the relevant community feels about this.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Frankly, I think WotC is doing that by having things such as d20 Modern out there, to say nothing of the SRDs for d20 Modern and d20 fantasy.</p><p></p><p>As for encouraging a different kind of RPG, WotC won't do that, and they're right not to. Why compete with themselves, even a little? It's simply not possible for them to cover the entire market, so they're better off building up a single unified base of customers and not trying to deviate from them.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Alzrius, post: 1223852, member: 8461"] You're missing my point: mechanics assume nothing inherent to the setting because they don't tell you anything "fluff" about the character. Say you have rules for a fire-mage PrC. You can still use that PrC in your campaign however you want. Are they a secretive organization of protectors? A group of pyromaniacs? Something else? The mechanics of the PrC (and anything else) stand on their own however you use them in the campaign. Hence, rules assume nothing inherent to the setting. I disagree, since DMs can use "player" content for their NPCs, and for whatever reason, even players like reading about things like new monsters, etc. Influenced isn't the same thing as setting it entirely. I still feel that people will feel what they want to, and outside influences are only as functional as people let them be. Someone who believes in role-playing over roll-playing isn't going to be swayed to having a regular subscription to [I]Dragon[/I] no matter how great its new mechanical articles are. This comment opens up a horribly nebulous mire. You're inferring that the fact that 3E does this to be a bad thing. But you could just as easily say that its that 3E does this that makes it superior to all those other RPGs. Some people may like it that they have more structure to things that were formerly left without mechanics. I certainly do. This one is much to relative to make a judgement call on. True, but you could just as easily say that we're the sample for the larger whole. A smaller percentage of a homogenous group is generally accurate for the larger whole. I think that the debate that goes on here is a pretty good sampling of how the entirety of the relevant community feels about this. Frankly, I think WotC is doing that by having things such as d20 Modern out there, to say nothing of the SRDs for d20 Modern and d20 fantasy. As for encouraging a different kind of RPG, WotC won't do that, and they're right not to. Why compete with themselves, even a little? It's simply not possible for them to cover the entire market, so they're better off building up a single unified base of customers and not trying to deviate from them. [/QUOTE]
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