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Message: <blockquote data-quote="apsuman" data-source="post: 1140265" data-attributes="member: 1769">Here is my (hasitly prepared) comparison of a straight Sorcerer/DD compared to a single classed Half Dragon Sorcerer.Thinking out loud here...A Sor 6/DD10  Vs. Sor 13 with the Half-Dragon TemplateI chose this combo because it is just about the earliest a sorcerer could take DD.Both Get:Natural Armor +4Breath WeaponClaw and Bite attacksBoth have the ability to use spell completion items, i.e. scrolls, wands, staves, etc.Assume human:Start with the following Ability Scores: 16, 15, 14, 13, 12, 11 ===The Half-Dragon has the following ability scores: S : 11  --> 19  D : 14  C : 15 --> 17I : 13 --> 15W : 12Ch : 16  -> 18 --> 21 From adding 1 at levels 4, 8, and 12The Half Dragon has 13 levels of d6 HD.  6 (for first level)+ 3.5 * 12 = 42+ 3 (from con) * 12 = 36for average HP of 84Has a BAB of +6/+1Modified to: +10/+6 (for STR)Spells Known: 9/5/5/4/4/3/2Spells Per Day: 6/8/7/7/7/7/4Save as: +7/+6/+9Skill points: 20 (1st lev) + 5 * 12 levels = 80===The DD has the following:S : 16 --> 24 --> 26 from adding 1 at level 12 and 16D : 14C : 15 -- > 17 -> 18 from adding 1 at level 8I : 12 --> 14 W : 11Ch : 13 -->15 --> 16 from adding 1 at level 4The DD has the following HP:4 (for first level)+ 2.5 * 5 = 12.5+6.5 * 10 = 65+4 (for con) * 16 = 64For an average of: 145.5Has a BAB of +10/+5Modified to +17/+12Spells Known: 7/4/2/1Spells Per Day: 6/7/6/10Save as: +13/+7/+12Also, the DD gests blind sense and wings.Skill points: 16 (first lev) + 4 * 12 levels + 5 * 3 levels = 79 (8 must go to Knowledge Arcana)So far the differentce boils down to : 60 more HP for the DDBlindsense 60' for the DDWings speed 30' for the DDBetter saves for the DD (by +6/+1/+3)More spells Known for the Half DragonMore Spells per day for the Half DragonOne would assume that the Half dragon would focus on Sorcerer like feats (metamagic, etc.) but the DD could focus on other feats, like Multi-attack, Improved Natual Attack (moving his claw attacks to 1d8), and Fly-by attack.Also, the spell selection would be entirely different.  The DD would probably want enlarge person (esp. w/ImpNatAttack) making his claw and bite attack become 2d6 from his size increase.For reference with Imp Nat Attack the DD would attack at (I believe):+17 Bite +15 claw + 15 Claw/+12 Bite +10 Claw +10 clawA FTR 16 w/24 STR would be:+23/+18/+13/+8Personally, I think the DD character very usable character as described here easily wading into melee.  The problem is getting to that level.  Really, a  Sor 6/DD 4 is pretty weak imho.g!</blockquote>

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