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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Elder-Basilisk" data-source="post: 832613" data-attributes="member: 3146">Even if haste does effect multiple targets, I think those changes would drop it to the bottom of the list of third level spells. The only ones that would be competing with it would be the revised Hold Person and things like Secret Page.+1 AC and attack is a pretty insignificant benefit for a 3rd level spell. Prayer does as much. And it give +1 to saves, skill checks and damage and a -1 to the enemy's saves, skill checks, and damage (-1 to hit is similar to +1 AC). And prayer is not on the A-list of cleric spells as far as I'm concerned--more like the C-list.+30 movement (yawn) doesn't make much difference in most situations--I certainly wouldn't use a 3rd level spell to solve movement problems. +1 attack/round (but only on a full attack)? That might make the spell worth casting if it effect more than one target. And if it's a static combat that's going to last a long time.For the others, the polymorph change looks good. The harm change looks good.The revised Hold person is pretty pathetic. For wizards, the only reason to take it is if you're an enchanter and have no other good choice (since you're not creative enough to make proper use of Suggestion). For clerics, Sound Burst would wipe the floor with a save every round Hold Person.</blockquote>