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<blockquote data-quote="Lonely Tylenol" data-source="post: 4064114" data-attributes="member: 18549">Last Sunday I came this close to generating a TPK for my 4th and 5th level PCs when they went up against a pair of harpies.&nbsp; Round 1, the harpies started to sing.&nbsp; Everyone failed their saving throws except the warmage, who just kept firing at them while they tried to take down the party.&nbsp; If he had failed one or the other of his saves, they'd have all been toast.&nbsp; Of course, I use action points, so they could have started burning off action points to get additional saves, but I do that for exactly the reason that D&amp;D is too lethal.Same session, the rogue almost got chewed to paste by a huge crocodile.&nbsp; 1d12+13 per round, or something like that.&nbsp; I only could miss her on a 1, then improved grab.&nbsp; The only reason she survived is because someone gave the croc a good reason to do a tail swipe, so it took the -20 to grapple and she managed to slip away.&nbsp; Another round and she'd be rolling up a new character.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lonely Tylenol, post: 4064114, member: 18549"] Last Sunday I came [i]this[/i] close to generating a TPK for my 4th and 5th level PCs when they went up against a pair of harpies. Round 1, the harpies started to sing. Everyone failed their saving throws except the warmage, who just kept firing at them while they tried to take down the party. If he had failed one or the other of his saves, they'd have all been toast. Of course, I use action points, so they could have started burning off action points to get additional saves, but I do that for exactly the reason that D&D is too lethal. Same session, the rogue almost got chewed to paste by a huge crocodile. 1d12+13 per round, or something like that. I only could miss her on a 1, then improved grab. The only reason she survived is because someone gave the croc a good reason to do a tail swipe, so it took the -20 to grapple and she managed to slip away. Another round and she'd be rolling up a new character. [/QUOTE]

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