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<blockquote data-quote="The Souljourner" data-source="post: 528505" data-attributes="member: 1622">2 things - Using a rapier or rapier-like weapon in two hands is not all that hard to imagine.&nbsp; In lots of movies you see guys with rapiers put their offhand over their main hand and plunge it into their foe's stomach, or reverse the grip and plunge it down into someone... it's not the normal way you use the rapier, for sure, but it doesn't seem totally inappropriate either.Second, as for gaining the benefits of weapon finesse while doing so.... weapon finesse says &quot;you can choose a rapier, provided you can use it in one hand&quot; .. doesn't say you have to be using it in one hand.&nbsp; However, it does mention that &quot;since you need your second hand for balance, if you carry a shield, apply the shield's armor check penalty to your attack rolls.&quot;I think if you really wanted to be technical, it doesn't actually say you can't use both hands... however, I think that's probably what they meant.-The Souljourner</blockquote>

[QUOTE="The Souljourner, post: 528505, member: 1622"] 2 things - Using a rapier or rapier-like weapon in two hands is not all that hard to imagine. In lots of movies you see guys with rapiers put their offhand over their main hand and plunge it into their foe's stomach, or reverse the grip and plunge it down into someone... it's not the normal way you use the rapier, for sure, but it doesn't seem totally inappropriate either. Second, as for gaining the benefits of weapon finesse while doing so.... weapon finesse says "you can choose a rapier, provided you can use it in one hand" .. doesn't say you [b]have[/b] to be using it in one hand. However, it does mention that "since you need your second hand for balance, if you carry a shield, apply the shield's armor check penalty to your attack rolls." I think if you really wanted to be technical, it doesn't actually say you can't use both hands... however, I think that's probably what they meant. -The Souljourner [/QUOTE]

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