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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Upper_Krust" data-source="post: 106884" data-attributes="member: 326">Hi there! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />I actually had this post ready a number of hours ago, but the boards wouldn't let me post. In the interim Colonel Hardisson (hello mate!) has made many of the same points, somewhat more politely. But as a vehement defender of very high level gaming I simply had to comment... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Your certainly entitled to your opinion but lets look at things objectively here...Amazingly what you fail to comprehend is that the 2nd Ed. option is still perfectly viable.Now we have either option, something denied us in the close minded 2nd Ed. interpretation (which, as everyone knows was heavily influenced by religious fundamentalist pressure on RPGs at the time!).Epic Level Gaming has to at least attempt class balance, if in so doing characters appear superhuman then so what!? Are you familiar with Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (to use an obvious example*) or the multitude of other martial arts/action movies where characters have extraordinary talents. Or indeed many more examples from Mythology of characters with similar amazing capabilities.*Quoted by the Epic Handbook design team as one of their main influences for elements of the book.You think now that WotC have drawn upon these ideas that it somehow devalues D&D itself!? ...and if in so doing they have fun, whats your problem!?Added to which; does this mean its the education of what it means to roleplay at high level rather than such high levels themselves you are attacking!? I would agree that there is a lack of understanding amidst very high level gaming which should (and hopefully will) be addressed.But thats no excuse for bigotry from 'supposedly' enlightened and experienced gamers.Simple. Don't buy the books in question!Why not channel your time and enthusiasm into positive objectivity rather than concentrating on your negative subjectivity. Seemingly you do care - you just expounded on shuddering when you picture 12 year old 'munchkins' wanting to kill Zeus.Well fortunately enough you don't run WotC! I for one, am looking forward to both Deities & Demigods and the Epic Level Handbook (and I know I am not the only one, by a long way!).Don't you think WotC does market research on such products before putting in the effort!?You also must realise that beyond the Core Rulebooks, pretty much ever product they could conceivably release is going to be for a niche proportion of the market anyway!?Obviously you can't please all of the people all of the time!eg. I may not be personally interested in seeing a Dragonlance Campaign Setting book, but I certainly wouldn't criticise WotC (or anyone else) for making one if they thought the interest was sufficient to warrant the effort! My suggestion for you; is to protest WotCs decision by not buying the books in question. I am sure you would be better served by telling everyone what you do want to see rather than what you don't! If you generate enough of an interest I am sure someone will take note, whether at WotC or another d20 company.</blockquote>

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