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<blockquote data-quote="Psion" data-source="post: 1140002" data-attributes="member: 172"><p>This may sound like an echo of Aeolius, but I really fail to see this as a <em>bad thing [TM]</em>. Throwing things at the players that they aren't familiar with from time to time adds an element of the fresh and the mysterious.</p><p></p><p>On to other posts (see what happens when I step out for lunch...)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Sure, if you cut across the spectrum. If you get bit a few times by picking up "Green Races", "Pale Designs" or "Complete Guide to Drow", I can understand your hesitance.</p><p></p><p>But, I think that Dragon does not have as much consistency as you allude to, and think that if you identify and go with the top tier publishers (for my money, Malhavoc and Green Ronin), their products are <em>more</em> consistent and of generally better quality than the Dragon.</p><p></p><p>Actually, now that I think of it, many people in this thread peg dragon for being unbalanced. My issues with the dragon have less to do with balance and more to do with the fact that I simply find their implementations of things that have also been addressed in d20 products a little more lackluster. I can </p><p></p><p>Even if you don't agree with my assessment of the general quality of dragon (and I would use some things from Dragon... I really love the monster cultists and the dragon slayers prc's), I don't see how the declaration it is official has anything to do with it's quality or acceptability for use.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't either. I beleive in having defined rules, but beleive it is the DMs place to define those rules, to include stating which rules (produced by Wizards, third party publishers, or otherwise) are to be used. There are talented game designers outside of WotC. Indeed, AFAIAC, most of their most talented designers have left and are now producing material freelance; I see no reason to exclude their talents because they no longer have the WotC stamp of approval.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Psion, post: 1140002, member: 172"] This may sound like an echo of Aeolius, but I really fail to see this as a [i]bad thing [TM][/i]. Throwing things at the players that they aren't familiar with from time to time adds an element of the fresh and the mysterious. On to other posts (see what happens when I step out for lunch...) Sure, if you cut across the spectrum. If you get bit a few times by picking up "Green Races", "Pale Designs" or "Complete Guide to Drow", I can understand your hesitance. But, I think that Dragon does not have as much consistency as you allude to, and think that if you identify and go with the top tier publishers (for my money, Malhavoc and Green Ronin), their products are [i]more[/i] consistent and of generally better quality than the Dragon. Actually, now that I think of it, many people in this thread peg dragon for being unbalanced. My issues with the dragon have less to do with balance and more to do with the fact that I simply find their implementations of things that have also been addressed in d20 products a little more lackluster. I can Even if you don't agree with my assessment of the general quality of dragon (and I would use some things from Dragon... I really love the monster cultists and the dragon slayers prc's), I don't see how the declaration it is official has anything to do with it's quality or acceptability for use. I don't either. I beleive in having defined rules, but beleive it is the DMs place to define those rules, to include stating which rules (produced by Wizards, third party publishers, or otherwise) are to be used. There are talented game designers outside of WotC. Indeed, AFAIAC, most of their most talented designers have left and are now producing material freelance; I see no reason to exclude their talents because they no longer have the WotC stamp of approval. [/QUOTE]
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