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<blockquote data-quote="Desdichado" data-source="post: 1140174" data-attributes="member: 2205"><p>Uh, isn't that the whole point of the thread, that you <em>don't</em> have good consensus about what rules to use? Those logical steps you're outlining are missing a lot of the conversation that <em>actually happened</em> on the thread. I'd call it something more like this:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">greymarch tells us all to spread the word that Dragon is now official and we're all free to use it. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f644.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll eyes :rolleyes:" data-smilie="11"data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">A lot of people ask why we should care.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">greymarch responds that official rules are better than other rules, having (and this is incorrect anyway) more oversight or playtesting or some other nebulous quality that elevates them above other rules.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">A lot of responses come back saying that official rules are <em>not</em> better than unofficial rules for the most part, and the PHB "officially" also states that what the DM says is a go for the campaign is what is official anyhow.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">You show up and make a lot of contradictory statements, like that you want broader allowances of rules in your game than the rest of the group is willing to accept, and that anyone who lets the DM decide what rules apply is a mindless zombie, and that everyone in your group has agreed to these rules (even though half of you disagree with the rules allowed.)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">In general, greymarch came and made a somewhat inane starting post to this thread that got a bunch of "what the heck are you talking about" posts, and then you show up and confuse things even more by making directly contradictory statements and insulting everyone who doesn't agree with your position, whatever the heck it actually is.</li> </ul></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Desdichado, post: 1140174, member: 2205"] Uh, isn't that the whole point of the thread, that you [i]don't[/i] have good consensus about what rules to use? Those logical steps you're outlining are missing a lot of the conversation that [i]actually happened[/i] on the thread. I'd call it something more like this: [list] [*]greymarch tells us all to spread the word that Dragon is now official and we're all free to use it. :rolleyes: [*]A lot of people ask why we should care. [*]greymarch responds that official rules are better than other rules, having (and this is incorrect anyway) more oversight or playtesting or some other nebulous quality that elevates them above other rules. [*]A lot of responses come back saying that official rules are [i]not[/i] better than unofficial rules for the most part, and the PHB "officially" also states that what the DM says is a go for the campaign is what is official anyhow. [*]You show up and make a lot of contradictory statements, like that you want broader allowances of rules in your game than the rest of the group is willing to accept, and that anyone who lets the DM decide what rules apply is a mindless zombie, and that everyone in your group has agreed to these rules (even though half of you disagree with the rules allowed.) [*]In general, greymarch came and made a somewhat inane starting post to this thread that got a bunch of "what the heck are you talking about" posts, and then you show up and confuse things even more by making directly contradictory statements and insulting everyone who doesn't agree with your position, whatever the heck it actually is. [/list] [/QUOTE]
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