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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Darrin Drader" data-source="post: 1141230" data-attributes="member: 7394">Alright, tell you what. Its obvious that this argument is going around and around in circles. Some people are making the claim that because material is "official" that it can be tossed into their game indescriminantly. Others are saying that official means nothing and that its up to the DM and the group to decide what should be included. Forget about the third party material for now, the main question comes down to a very simple question: what is the definition of "official" as it applies to Dragon, Dungeon, and Polyhedron.First off, I don't have an appropriate answer for that at this time, but I can get make an effort to get an answer. I can go to the brand manager, discuss the confusion with him, and get a stated definition that I can either post to the boards, or possibly have him post. Part of this is easier to get an answer to though. Dungeon/Poly is easy to claim as official. Any Star Wars stuff that gets published must be cleared through Lucasfilm. Does that make it canon? Yes, unless Lucas decides to make a movie that contradicts it, in which case it gets tossed. Dungeon adventures usually draw upon things that have been published in the core books, so they're just as easy to call canon.Dragon is not so easy to pigeon hole because they are constantly providing option rules, new classes, magic items, etc. True, there is a fair amount of material that winds up in there that is promotional material from upcoming releases (or material that was cut, or material that was generated to promote it). Then there is the stuff generated by the readers, and stuff that ends up in there and then gets contradicted later in a book. There was an article I quite liked that Eric Cagle wrote in a Dungeon magazine a while back that contradicts something I did for the Book of Exalted Deeds. It happened because we weren't aware that we were working on similar things, and neither was Jesse Decker, who let Eric's material make it into the magazine. These things happen.So bottom line, as an ambassador between the company and the community (which is essentially what my day job for them is anyway), I'm going to try to get a definition of "official" and come back here with it. In the meant time, I would very much appreciate it if the flame wars would stop, because as much as you want to go around in circles about a definition, no one, including myself, has that definition.</blockquote>

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