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<blockquote data-quote="James McMurray" data-source="post: 18518" data-attributes="member: 743">Wolfspider:Unless they're incredibly powerful by that point, I can't imagine my PCs succesfully bearding Orcus in his Lair. Odds are I'll be using his Creature Catalog stats rather than the WotC stats. I think WotC's version is a bit too watered down for the power that should be Orcus. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":-)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :-)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":-)" /> Of course, knowing my party, they may very well try it. And with my luck, they'll succeed :-OArcane Runes Press: He was not just a juvenile dragon, he was also a 10th level evoker, making him CR 19. In one of my posts, there's&nbsp; a link to his history, followed by a bit more info, that explains his relationship to the party.As for the Green, he'll follow the contract because if he doesn't, he will be subject to the penalty clause. The contract was written by a devil, and the penalty clause stipulates that anyone violating the contract gets to be his eternal servant. by agreeing to the contract, he had hoped to use a loophole that he had noticed and the party hadn't to get most of their nice treasure. Also, he knows that high level adventurers are ont just something you kill for fun. Just as the party got in trouble for killing dragons, there's a chance these indivduals would have allies that would come looking for the dragon should he kill them. It's a delicate balance, which the party maintains by not upsetting this dragon in any way shaoe or form.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="James McMurray, post: 18518, member: 743"] Wolfspider: Unless they're incredibly powerful by that point, I can't imagine my PCs succesfully bearding Orcus in his Lair. Odds are I'll be using his Creature Catalog stats rather than the WotC stats. I think WotC's version is a bit too watered down for the power that should be Orcus. :-) Of course, knowing my party, they may very well try it. And with my luck, they'll succeed :-O Arcane Runes Press: He was not just a juvenile dragon, he was also a 10th level evoker, making him CR 19. In one of my posts, there's a link to his history, followed by a bit more info, that explains his relationship to the party. As for the Green, he'll follow the contract because if he doesn't, he will be subject to the penalty clause. The contract was written by a devil, and the penalty clause stipulates that anyone violating the contract gets to be his eternal servant. by agreeing to the contract, he had hoped to use a loophole that he had noticed and the party hadn't to get most of their nice treasure. Also, he knows that high level adventurers are ont just something you kill for fun. Just as the party got in trouble for killing dragons, there's a chance these indivduals would have allies that would come looking for the dragon should he kill them. It's a delicate balance, which the party maintains by not upsetting this dragon in any way shaoe or form. [/QUOTE]

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