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<blockquote data-quote="James McMurray" data-source="post: 18772" data-attributes="member: 743"><p>They never scryed on the sapphire, and he did screw with them when they wind walked. That must be the thread that is gone now. In the end, the party ended up about even on treasure, since they had to raise people and lost their own gear to green slime. Also, as you'll note in the other thread if you read it, the contract involves raising the Sapphire again. One of the last posts in that thread is one of the players' plans to deal with the Sapphire as well, although they haven't tried that yet.</p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>A few things to point out here. </p><p></p><p>1) The dragon gets dragon Mountain, and a tenth of the treasure, for absolutely NO work on his part. In addition, the way the contract was worded, had the party actually killed the dragon inside the mountain, Shasalah (the green) would have been able to choose from their stuff as well.</p><p></p><p>2) Everyone is quick to point out that Dragons would pull together if a few of them were killed. Why doesn't anyone see that adventurers may do the same. Shasalah has no way of knowing exactly what kind of powerful allies the party may have that would come looking for her if they were killed. Why risk reprisal when you can have the group GIVE you everything you want, and make it bound into a contract that leaves no wiggle room.</p><p></p><p>3) The only thing the dragon actually agreed to in the contract was that she would not kill the party FOR KILLING THE DRAGON THEY WERE AFTER. The party and her both fully realize that she can kill them for any other reason, at any time. But again, there's the threat of reprisal (which the party doesn't even think about, so they're just glad she hasn't struck them down).</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Yes, but at this point, she has the Staff of the Magi. The party will not be allowed to leave carrying the amulet, and the Holy avenger is not a true threat to her. Since she doesn't care about what other evil things may get killed, so long as they're not dragons, she doesn't need to take that sword right now. Sure, she could, but she would rather try to walk a line that won't get the party coming after her (with posible reinforcements), and still lets her have the amulet (her true target). </p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>My world. The party was in a metropolis, where I'm sure hundreds of lawyers can be found. The lawyer they hired never had to negotiate, he just read the proposed contracts, and gave a re-write that was more favorable to the party, and wouldn't result in them being a dragon's shower toy.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="James McMurray, post: 18772, member: 743"] They never scryed on the sapphire, and he did screw with them when they wind walked. That must be the thread that is gone now. In the end, the party ended up about even on treasure, since they had to raise people and lost their own gear to green slime. Also, as you'll note in the other thread if you read it, the contract involves raising the Sapphire again. One of the last posts in that thread is one of the players' plans to deal with the Sapphire as well, although they haven't tried that yet. A few things to point out here. 1) The dragon gets dragon Mountain, and a tenth of the treasure, for absolutely NO work on his part. In addition, the way the contract was worded, had the party actually killed the dragon inside the mountain, Shasalah (the green) would have been able to choose from their stuff as well. 2) Everyone is quick to point out that Dragons would pull together if a few of them were killed. Why doesn't anyone see that adventurers may do the same. Shasalah has no way of knowing exactly what kind of powerful allies the party may have that would come looking for her if they were killed. Why risk reprisal when you can have the group GIVE you everything you want, and make it bound into a contract that leaves no wiggle room. 3) The only thing the dragon actually agreed to in the contract was that she would not kill the party FOR KILLING THE DRAGON THEY WERE AFTER. The party and her both fully realize that she can kill them for any other reason, at any time. But again, there's the threat of reprisal (which the party doesn't even think about, so they're just glad she hasn't struck them down). Yes, but at this point, she has the Staff of the Magi. The party will not be allowed to leave carrying the amulet, and the Holy avenger is not a true threat to her. Since she doesn't care about what other evil things may get killed, so long as they're not dragons, she doesn't need to take that sword right now. Sure, she could, but she would rather try to walk a line that won't get the party coming after her (with posible reinforcements), and still lets her have the amulet (her true target). My world. The party was in a metropolis, where I'm sure hundreds of lawyers can be found. The lawyer they hired never had to negotiate, he just read the proposed contracts, and gave a re-write that was more favorable to the party, and wouldn't result in them being a dragon's shower toy. [/QUOTE]
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