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<blockquote data-quote="James McMurray" data-source="post: 22232" data-attributes="member: 743"><p>I'll explain them as I go then. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>He was not spotted by an overwhelming force, he was spotted by someone who he felt was about to become his bitch.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Heard of Boots of Speed? They're the exact same thing, only in a different slot. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Ummm, because I mis-typed and meant to say the paladin hits his elemental a couple times and the clerics hits his also? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":-)" title="Smile :-)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":-)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well, they still only have a +12 Pick Pockets, which means for small items, they need a 20. When trying to pull swords out of sheathes that have been targeted with Seal of Hedrada, they failed because it can't be done. The Seal is a Relics and Rituals spell that basically makes it so noone but Lawful Good people can draw that weapon, although its far from the spell's only use.</p><p></p><p>The paladin did not chase etheral creatures. If you read the filcher's description, they can only stay ethereal for one round at a time. That means you can chase them if you go when they reappear.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Becuase they're eating a hero's feast at a table and it was sitting beside him on the bench?</p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, people's third attacks often missed. But then again, filchers and para-elementals don't have very good ACs.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Suggestion is a highly effective spell, even if it is only level 3. Had it worked, it would have both removed the enemy from the combat, and gained an ally in the theft attempt. As for why he was standing so close, maybe its because he needed to be near to get the items that his summoned monsters grabbed for him?</p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Um, god forbid you actually get down off your high horse and try to pay attention to what people are saying. How the heck did he "cast defensive spells" if he one of them wasn't haste? Also, he did cast defensive spells the first three rounds, I didn't feel the need to mention though, as I didn't realize that you were completely unable to extrapolate from the fact that the sorceror managed to dispel some things, that apparently "some things" must have been cast earlier.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Actually, the correct phrasology would be "pathetically attempting and failing to grapple him". Sacrifice Spell is another spell from Relics and Rituals, it lets you give up other spell slots for bolts that do a d8 per spell level given up (up to your level in dice, reflex save for half). </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No, but some people think like this: "I'm not hurt very badly, I've got an ace up my sleeve in Improved Invisibility, and I REALLY want that Artifact Amulet. I could stay around for another second or two at least. After all, escape by teleport is only an instant away."</p><p></p><p></p><p>I prefer to think of it as yet another example of enemies acting in character.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It wasn't seen as a good sign, it was seen as a chance to get "that damned amulet," as the dragon called it.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well, if you would have read what I wrote with an eye towards content rather than trying to dreg up things to nitpick over, you would have seen the following:</p></blockquote><p>Looking back over that, I know that things are in the correct round order, but not necessarily in the right order during the rounds, as I don't remember the exact initaives people had.[/QUOTE]</p><p>Is it just me, or did I say right off that things weren't in the correct order on those rounds? Why yes, yes I did.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Wrong, as stated above.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>HE did have a hell of a lot more minions, but its kind of hard to teleport across country with thousands of kobolds. Not to mention the fact that not every CR20 monster is going to have minions. Have you ever heard of loners? I'd be willing to bet that Smaug (one of the original dragons of Fantasy) was well over CR20, and he lived all by himself. Just because you happen to think something, doesn't necessarily make it true.</p><p></p><p></p><p>That about sums it up. And here I thought you were confused about the events as they occurred</p><p></p><p></p><p>I disagree, but even the Taliban is entitled to their opinion.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm thinking that creatures should be played to their intelligence scores, their wisdom scores, and their personalities. I belive I've said that quite a few times. If you still can't see that, I'm sorry but I don't know how many times more I can say it, nor how I can be clearer.</p><p>[/QUOTE]</p>
[QUOTE="James McMurray, post: 22232, member: 743"] I'll explain them as I go then. He was not spotted by an overwhelming force, he was spotted by someone who he felt was about to become his bitch. Heard of Boots of Speed? They're the exact same thing, only in a different slot. Ummm, because I mis-typed and meant to say the paladin hits his elemental a couple times and the clerics hits his also? :-) Well, they still only have a +12 Pick Pockets, which means for small items, they need a 20. When trying to pull swords out of sheathes that have been targeted with Seal of Hedrada, they failed because it can't be done. The Seal is a Relics and Rituals spell that basically makes it so noone but Lawful Good people can draw that weapon, although its far from the spell's only use. The paladin did not chase etheral creatures. If you read the filcher's description, they can only stay ethereal for one round at a time. That means you can chase them if you go when they reappear. Becuase they're eating a hero's feast at a table and it was sitting beside him on the bench? Yes, people's third attacks often missed. But then again, filchers and para-elementals don't have very good ACs. Suggestion is a highly effective spell, even if it is only level 3. Had it worked, it would have both removed the enemy from the combat, and gained an ally in the theft attempt. As for why he was standing so close, maybe its because he needed to be near to get the items that his summoned monsters grabbed for him? Um, god forbid you actually get down off your high horse and try to pay attention to what people are saying. How the heck did he "cast defensive spells" if he one of them wasn't haste? Also, he did cast defensive spells the first three rounds, I didn't feel the need to mention though, as I didn't realize that you were completely unable to extrapolate from the fact that the sorceror managed to dispel some things, that apparently "some things" must have been cast earlier. Actually, the correct phrasology would be "pathetically attempting and failing to grapple him". Sacrifice Spell is another spell from Relics and Rituals, it lets you give up other spell slots for bolts that do a d8 per spell level given up (up to your level in dice, reflex save for half). No, but some people think like this: "I'm not hurt very badly, I've got an ace up my sleeve in Improved Invisibility, and I REALLY want that Artifact Amulet. I could stay around for another second or two at least. After all, escape by teleport is only an instant away." I prefer to think of it as yet another example of enemies acting in character. It wasn't seen as a good sign, it was seen as a chance to get "that damned amulet," as the dragon called it. Well, if you would have read what I wrote with an eye towards content rather than trying to dreg up things to nitpick over, you would have seen the following: [/QUOTE]Looking back over that, I know that things are in the correct round order, but not necessarily in the right order during the rounds, as I don't remember the exact initaives people had.[/QUOTE] Is it just me, or did I say right off that things weren't in the correct order on those rounds? Why yes, yes I did. Wrong, as stated above. HE did have a hell of a lot more minions, but its kind of hard to teleport across country with thousands of kobolds. Not to mention the fact that not every CR20 monster is going to have minions. Have you ever heard of loners? I'd be willing to bet that Smaug (one of the original dragons of Fantasy) was well over CR20, and he lived all by himself. Just because you happen to think something, doesn't necessarily make it true. That about sums it up. And here I thought you were confused about the events as they occurred I disagree, but even the Taliban is entitled to their opinion. I'm thinking that creatures should be played to their intelligence scores, their wisdom scores, and their personalities. I belive I've said that quite a few times. If you still can't see that, I'm sorry but I don't know how many times more I can say it, nor how I can be clearer. [/QUOTE]
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