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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Vocenoctum" data-source="post: 1468984" data-attributes="member: 2477">The classes are indeed almost completely unmodified. The races I felt were fine. The half-giants are the only one's that are really altered to fit the new edition. IMO."Bards" in Athas were completely different, and it would have been nice to have the class representing them present. That said PHB Bards and Paladin's can exist as easily as anything else.DS was an evolving world, did you complain whenever a new (2e) supplement added a new race or class? So, 300 years later, a apaladin is possible (though, frankly still unlikely, given the setting) and there arose a group of performers that used magic to entertain instead of just being assassins.here ya go;<a href="http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/iw/20040215a&page=3" target="_blank">http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/iw/20040215a&page=3</a>Sure, but they'd be ECL +5 or so, and useless to most campaigns. I'm not saying that things have to be balanced vs other worlds, but power levels within a world should be comparable.The problem here is, first off you seem to personally invest too much in the arguement. More than that though, you expected a complete setting? The articles were presented as a mini guide to Athas, something to get folks started and involved in the setting. As well, they couldn't devote the entire magazine to it, simply because not everyone likes DS.I happened to like most of it, and feel beefing up the PHB races to ECL's was nice and a good way to go. I agree that the classes of DS were too different to easily convert, but the alternative was simply to print all of them.I didn't care that Paladin's were on Athas, because their possibility doesn't mean suddenly that they're forming up orders and attacking cities. It just means they're possible. I personally wish the Elemental Cleric was given more detail. I find it more offensive that Monk's are in Athas, but that's because I prefer my monks ascetics, not unarmed killing machines. I think Athas NEEDS paladins.</blockquote>

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