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Message: <blockquote data-quote="irdeggman" data-source="post: 1477157" data-attributes="member: 16285">Ahh there is the difference in opinions.  Dark Sun was in every previous incarnation and in the novels (which there are quite a few by the way, only FR and Dragonlance have more IIRC) a place of anti-heroism.  It was a harsh world where there is no clear good and evil.  It was full of situational ethics. In the revised DS set it attempted to define alignments in turn of sharing water, again no clear cut good and evil.  There was sticking up for what a character thought was right against what he thought was wrong, only it was all personal - there wasn't any clearly designated right and wrong it was always defined by the character him/her self.  See the novels and Sadira's defiling and how she handled it in the long run.This does not fly against "the options not restrictions" mantra that people in general attempt to use to justify making any revision of an old setting merely a clone of Greyhawk/Forgotten Worlds.  A setting is defined by its differences not by its similarities otherwise it is all just plain vanilla.For example DS elves are the exact opposite of the PHB elves.  Where the standard PHB elf desires to perserve and live as one with nature the DS elf would set up a contract to ravage the last forest if he could make a gp from it (remind me more of Ferengi than the generic fantasy elves). This is just one of the marked differences that made DS its own camapaign.Now I'm not saying that a paladin-styled character couldn't fit, only that the PHB version will not unless modified quite a bit.  Again "options not restrictions".Something else that Dragon #319 should have done but didn't was to really tie in arcane spell casting the state of Athas. It was mentioned in #315 but the extension to bards if using the PHB version that casts arcane spells wasn't made.  I personnaly don't like using the PHB bard in DS, but if it is being used then the defiling/preserving rules should be applied to them also.</blockquote>

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