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<blockquote data-quote="The Souljourner" data-source="post: 433333" data-attributes="member: 1622">Here's the deal - grapple checks are set such that they assume the creature is using all its limbs to focus on grappling you.&nbsp; If it doesn't, it gets a -20 to its grapple check.&nbsp; That makes a HUGE difference.&nbsp; So, once it grappled you and your friend, on your turn you get to make a grapple check to get out of it.&nbsp; It has to either drop one of you to maintain a normal grapple check on the other one, or it has to take -20 on both grapple checks.&nbsp; Now, as for the breath weapon - did you know about the dragon ahead of time?&nbsp; Because that cleric should have had you all set up with Resist Elements (or whatever the 12/ level one is).&nbsp; That should suck up at least two if not three of the dragon's breath weapons.&nbsp; Also, if the dragon wants to move one of you into a line with its mouth and the cleric, it has to make a strength check... I'm not sure exactly on the logistics, but I remember reading it somewhere... anyone else have the actual rules for it?Somewhere online there is a complete grapple rulesheet that is a lot of help.&nbsp; If I find it I'll post the link.-The Souljourner</blockquote>

[QUOTE="The Souljourner, post: 433333, member: 1622"] Here's the deal - grapple checks are set such that they assume the creature is using all its limbs to focus on grappling you. If it doesn't, it gets a -20 to its grapple check. That makes a HUGE difference. So, once it grappled you and your friend, on your turn you get to make a grapple check to get out of it. It has to either drop one of you to maintain a normal grapple check on the other one, or it has to take -20 on both grapple checks. Now, as for the breath weapon - did you know about the dragon ahead of time? Because that cleric should have had you all set up with Resist Elements (or whatever the 12/ level one is). That should suck up at least two if not three of the dragon's breath weapons. Also, if the dragon wants to move one of you into a line with its mouth and the cleric, it has to make a strength check... I'm not sure exactly on the logistics, but I remember reading it somewhere... anyone else have the actual rules for it? Somewhere online there is a complete grapple rulesheet that is a lot of help. If I find it I'll post the link. -The Souljourner [/QUOTE]

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