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<blockquote data-quote="Alejandro" data-source="post: 433554" data-attributes="member: 248">Hmm, a few things sound iffy about that combat.Since this was a CR 10 blue dragon, it was most likely a young adult blue dragon. Being Large, it is indeed able to use its Improved Grab ability against you if it had the Snatch feat.However, it must take a -20 to its grapple check if it wanted to only grab you with its bite, and would also be at another -20 when it grabbed the archer. It does not automatically grapple you.When grappled, you can attempt to break the hold (it still has a -20 to its checks), escape from the grapple, or attack it with a light weapon. Your grapple checks suffer the iterative attack penalties, but its oppose grapple checks only suffer the -20, not the iterative penalties.When it had you and the archer, you're all considered to be in the same area. It could have breathed on itself to damage you with no save and the archer with a Reflex save, or could have breathed at the cleric to damage you with no save and the cleric with a Reflex save, but by the rules could not have &quot;lined up&quot; the archer between its mouth and the cleric. In no case would the archer have been denied a save, since the archer was not Snatched by the bite.I think your DM was just having a bit too much fun, at your expense.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Alejandro, post: 433554, member: 248"] Hmm, a few things sound iffy about that combat. Since this was a CR 10 blue dragon, it was most likely a young adult blue dragon. Being Large, it is indeed able to use its Improved Grab ability against you [b]if[/b] it had the Snatch feat. However, it must take a -20 to its grapple check if it wanted to only grab you with its bite, and would also be at another -20 when it grabbed the archer. It does not automatically grapple you. When grappled, you can attempt to break the hold (it still has a -20 to its checks), escape from the grapple, or attack it with a light weapon. Your grapple checks suffer the iterative attack penalties, but its oppose grapple checks only suffer the -20, not the iterative penalties. When it had you and the archer, you're all considered to be in the same area. It could have breathed on itself to damage you with no save and the archer with a Reflex save, or could have breathed at the cleric to damage you with no save and the cleric with a Reflex save, but by the rules could not have "lined up" the archer between its mouth and the cleric. In no case would the archer have been denied a save, since the archer was not Snatched by the bite. I think your DM was just having a bit too much fun, at your expense. [/QUOTE]

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