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Message: <blockquote data-quote="sevenbastard" data-source="post: 9434469" data-attributes="member: 83473">Argument? Nah more a distaste. Look I get that that having all three mental ability scores power casters makes some sort of logical sense, but I would be happier if intelligence powered arcane, wisdom powered divine, and charisma powered some third type of magic, let's call it glamours, that was distinct from arcane and divine. Having one person cast Fireball with Int and another cast it with Cha just bothers me. Sure a few spells cross over from wizards to clerics, but most are different. Second i dont really like any of the Cha casters. I can live without the sorcerer and I think the warlock is an ok idea, but don't think it's separated enough from a cleric in they both are granted spells by a mystical patron. Bards are ok but I think their magic should be very subtle and not flashy.Third learning to play back in the 1e and 2e era Charisma was a Stat that only a few charachters had high scores and for most of the party it was a dump Stat. If you had a high Charisma it was because you wanted to be "the face" not just because your class required it (paladin excluded of course). Fourth sometimes I can be a old man who shakes his fist at anything that wasn't in the game back when I walked up hill both ways home from school.</blockquote>