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<blockquote data-quote="Wofano Wotanto" data-source="post: 9622587" data-attributes="member: 7044704"><p>Maybe, but almost all my SF play time came after Knight Hawks was out and integrated it into gameplay extensively, so I may be biased. Our initial stab at the basic game hit the Volturnus modules and nearly killed all interest in it for good. As one of my fellow players said, this entire planet is so freaking ridiculous it makes Gamma World look like hard science fiction by comparison. Thankfully, we were all starship combat fans, and when it did come out KH as a game unto itself was good enough to pull everyone back in.</p><p></p><p>We came into SF/KH after playing a fair bit of Traveller, and had almost a year of FASA Star Trek under our belts by the time KH came out, so a pretty different basis for our expectations. Traveller was a lot better about not gating starship skills away from starting PCs, and FASA Trek made an elaborate team sub-game out of any starship combat, with every PC having specific duties to perform.</p><p></p><p>WEG Star Wars came quite a bit later for us, we were all getting out of college (or entering grad school) by then. </p><p></p><p>Considering how active the fan base still is, I imagine it could do pretty well - but "pretty well" by industry standards is nowhere near good enough for Hasbro. There's also the nasty taint of NuTSR's abortive attempt to steal the Star Frontiers name still clinging to it, although I doubt that would have much real impact at this point, it got quashed pretty quickly.</p><p></p><p>Wholeheartedly agreed. Lords of Dus is arguably his magnum opus, but I've never read anything by him (including this issue's short story) that I really didn't like. Still kind of boggling that the (much longer, and still ongoing) Ethshar series doesn't have a much bigger following in the fantasy gaming community. It's some of the best gaming-adjacent fiction out there, and yet many people haven't even heard of it.</p><p></p><p>Anyone else remember the article in Space Gamer #28 with rules for porting Overmen into The Fantasy Trip?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Wofano Wotanto, post: 9622587, member: 7044704"] Maybe, but almost all my SF play time came after Knight Hawks was out and integrated it into gameplay extensively, so I may be biased. Our initial stab at the basic game hit the Volturnus modules and nearly killed all interest in it for good. As one of my fellow players said, this entire planet is so freaking ridiculous it makes Gamma World look like hard science fiction by comparison. Thankfully, we were all starship combat fans, and when it did come out KH as a game unto itself was good enough to pull everyone back in. We came into SF/KH after playing a fair bit of Traveller, and had almost a year of FASA Star Trek under our belts by the time KH came out, so a pretty different basis for our expectations. Traveller was a lot better about not gating starship skills away from starting PCs, and FASA Trek made an elaborate team sub-game out of any starship combat, with every PC having specific duties to perform. WEG Star Wars came quite a bit later for us, we were all getting out of college (or entering grad school) by then. Considering how active the fan base still is, I imagine it could do pretty well - but "pretty well" by industry standards is nowhere near good enough for Hasbro. There's also the nasty taint of NuTSR's abortive attempt to steal the Star Frontiers name still clinging to it, although I doubt that would have much real impact at this point, it got quashed pretty quickly. Wholeheartedly agreed. Lords of Dus is arguably his magnum opus, but I've never read anything by him (including this issue's short story) that I really didn't like. Still kind of boggling that the (much longer, and still ongoing) Ethshar series doesn't have a much bigger following in the fantasy gaming community. It's some of the best gaming-adjacent fiction out there, and yet many people haven't even heard of it. Anyone else remember the article in Space Gamer #28 with rules for porting Overmen into The Fantasy Trip? [/QUOTE]
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