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<blockquote data-quote="BWP" data-source="post: 9623673" data-attributes="member: 29024">Consider that SPI had tried it just a year or two earlier with their Universe SFRPG; the boxed set included the Delta-Vee hex-based spaceship wargame (which was also released separately as a stand-alone game).&nbsp; Unfortunately, this was pretty much a total failure, as DV was OK (but not outstanding), but far too complex to drop into the middle of an RPG session, especially if none of the players had ever played it as a stand-alone (and in my gaming group, not everyone was especially interested in stand-alone starship combat games).&nbsp; If Universe had made any attempt at all to provide some sort of simplified quick-playing alternative it might have been OK, but it didn't, and it wasn't.&nbsp; Overall, the game left the distinct impression that it had been designed by people who had some good SF ideas and knew how to design wargames, but really had no idea at all what an RPG was or should be.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="BWP, post: 9623673, member: 29024"] Consider that SPI had tried it just a year or two earlier with their [B]Universe[/B] SFRPG; the boxed set included the [B]Delta-Vee[/B] hex-based spaceship wargame (which was also released separately as a stand-alone game). Unfortunately, this was pretty much a total failure, as [B]DV[/B] was OK (but not outstanding), but far too complex to drop into the middle of an RPG session, especially if none of the players had ever played it as a stand-alone (and in my gaming group, not everyone was especially interested in stand-alone starship combat games). If [B]Universe[/B] had made any attempt at all to provide some sort of simplified quick-playing alternative it might have been OK, but it didn't, and it wasn't. Overall, the game left the distinct impression that it had been designed by people who had some good SF ideas and knew how to design wargames, but really had no idea at all what an RPG was or should be. [/QUOTE]

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