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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Rystil Arden" data-source="post: 2059148" data-attributes="member: 29014">That's an interesting system.  The problem I see with it (and this isn't a problem in your dragon vs Derrick fight but with the system itself) is that the dragon's breath weapon will instantly kill itself on average, even on a successful save (46-31=15), if it weren't for its fire immunity, so every fight between dragons is likely to degenerate into who wins initiative.  Also, wizard save for half blast spells automatically kill the dragon too, regardless of save roll, and not only the dragon but every PC without Evasion.  You do call out the caveat that the grim and gritty system isn't balanced, and I tend to agree with you.  I agree that the dragon just became much scarier for Derrick though, although he might change his build in a system where heavy armour and Con give him damage reduction and Small size takes it away (perhaps +5 mithral full plate and Con raises, plus being a dwarf instead of a halfling, since size Small characters will become extinct due to size penalty to this Soak DR thing, that would put his soak up to 27, making the dragon's melee less significant--still automatically dead from the breath attack, though; I might not have done this right, but that's what I get for trying to build a character under this system without reading the actual rules ^^).  As far as running the fight: the only thing I see is that the dragon needs to wait a round after True Strike before biting (unless this is different in GnG), so he won't get off that attack before dying.</blockquote>

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