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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Palocles" data-source="post: 5963370" data-attributes="member: 6696154">Hi guys. I'm just going to get straight to business with my first post. Intros can wait. So i decided to go with Pathfinder but after i had already read 4E and there are several things i do like about 4th, particularly the higher level of fantasticalness of the Dragonborn and Teifling races instead of Gnomes and Half Orcs. So, using the guide made by Golden and Posted on the GiantITP forums here: <a href="http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=183223" target="_blank">http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=183223</a> So here is what i've come up with with basically a straight conversion. Do they look balanced with the existing PF races? As 4E doesn't give a -2 racial modifier on any stats i'd like feedback on which is most appropriate to use. Dragonborn: [FONT=MentorStd-BoldItalic, cursive]Proud, honorable warriors, [/FONT][FONT=MentorStd-BoldItalic, cursive]born from the blood of an ancient dragon god.[/FONT]Average Height: 6'2” - 6'8” Average Weight: 220 – 320lbs. Ability Scores: +2 Strength, +2 Charisma, -2 Dexterity(?) (non human, 0 points) Size Category: Medium (0) Movement Speed: 30' (0) Vision: Normal (0) Languages: Draconic, Common Skill Bonuses: +2 History, +2 Intinidate (2) Dragonborn Fury: You gain +1 to hit rolls when you are below half HP. (2) Dragons Breath: Three + Con bonus times per day (but only once per encounter) you can make a Dragons Breath attack as detailed below. (6) Standard Action: Range: 15' Dia Ball, adjacent to player of either: Acid, Cold, Fire, Lightning or Poison* Damage: 1D6 + con mod. Targets: All creatures within area, Reflex save vs. DC to avoid. DC equals 10 plus half level (round down) and either* Str, Con or Dex bonus. *Both chosen during character creation. Level based Racial Feats to buff up breath attack available.*** Teifling: [FONT=MentorStd-BoldItalic, cursive]Heirs of a shattered empire who live in the shadows and do not fear the dark.[/FONT]Average Height: 5'6” - 6' 2” Average Weight: 140 – 230lbs. Ability Scores: +2 Intelligence, +2 Charisma, -2 Wisdom(or STR or CON?) (non human, 0 points) Size Category: Medium (0) Movement Speed: 30' (0) Vision: Low Light Vision (1) Languages: Common, choice of one other Skill Bonuses: +2 Bluff, +2 Stealth (2) Bloodhunt: You gain a +1 racial bonus to attack rolls against enemies below half HP. (2) Fire Resistance: You gain a +2 bonus to saving throws vs fire attacks. (1) Infernal Wrath: Three + Cha bonus times per day (but only once per encounter) you can use Infernal Wrath to gain a +1 power bonus on your attack roll against an enemy you hit since your last turn. If the attack hits and does damage you can add your Cha bonus to the damage too. (4) ***Oh yeah, i also wasn't too sure whether the two Blooded abilities were worth more or the same as Hatred. They apply too all enemies, unlike Hatred but also don't function continuously. Hatred is worth one point, i've made these worth two.Thanks chaps.</blockquote>

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