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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dark Sun Gnome" data-source="post: 6787857" data-attributes="member: 6805010">I have nothing against the Dragonborn being in the Realms, but I was saddened that there was no focus on the reptillian races that were part of the setting from 3.5 in the SCAG. Not much on the yuan-ti, the asabi, the firenewts and the khaasta. I can understand why there is not much focus on the asabi or the khaasta (the planescape intinerations were great), but the firenewts are in canon, held up as the embodiment of flame by the church of Kossuth and are found in most areas of the realms where there is volcanic activity, and are more widespread and populous than the ghostwise halflings. The yuan-ti had entire nations under their control (covertly or directly) in 3.5, and more could have been written on them.I have more of a problem with them being in Dark Sun, where the <a href="http://www.lomion.de/cmm/dray.php" target="_blank">dray </a>were created by the undead dragon king Dregoth as his dream race, in the image of a full dragon (which Dregoth was on the verge of becoming before the other sorcerer kings killed him). They had their own stats and looked like replicas of a full dragon. There are no chromatic or metallic dragons in the setting - just bestial drakes, that correspond to the <a href="http://www.lomion.de/cmm/drakatha.php" target="_blank">elemental</a> and <a href="http://www.lomion.de/cmm/drakales.php" target="_blank">paraelemental</a> planes and in some cases look nothing like dragons, and becoming a fully fledged dragon means becoming a 20th level wizard, a 20th level Psion and then undergoing a 10 stage process that ends becoming a full dragon. In 4th edition, the Dragonborn looked the same as the ones found in other settings, though at least it was implied that was the reason they were expelled from New Guistenal. But considering just how menacing the dray looked as the second generation that were the success story, and how pitiful they looked as the first, the runts that were cast out by their dread king and looked upon their creator with rage, but still hoped that one day Dregoth would find it in his heart to forgive their imperfect existance and welcome them back, I find the dragonborn a lot less appealing than the bestial dray (and the dray rode giant psionic bugs, which is always a bonus).I just find the dragonborn bland, which is a shame considering the types of dragons, and how much they could vary in appearance. A sleek, almost feline white dragonborn or a skull faced black one, or maybe a one descended from crystaline dragons that had gems in its flesh. Ones that had one human arm and one reptillian arm, ones that had almost human faces - there is so much potential variation.I like the idea of dragonborn, but when compared to the equivalents in the Dark Sun (dray), Scarred Lands (tatsuri and their take on kobolds) and the Dragonlance (the draconians) settings, I just feel like there is so much potential. I would love to see skull-faced dragonborn, or ones that are a mix of different characteristics.</blockquote>

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