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Message: <blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 6794112" data-attributes="member: 6790260">@<a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=6778044" target="_blank">Ilbranteloth</a> It may surprise you to know that, at least in my case, the "diaspora story" was something I...pretty much unconsciously assumed for the default 4e dragonborn (in the default setting, properly "Arkhosians") because of their history. It's true that their "honorable warrior" culture is the part that gets played up. But even in the 4e default setting (often called "PoLand" because of the points of light description), they were driven from their homeland--the great war between them and the tieflings (Bael Turath) destroyed both civilizations, with the Arkhosians' already dryish lands suffering a withering curse that transformed them into barren deserts. The struggle to retain a social identity in the face of being spread to the winds is definitely an avenue they prepared for such characters--as is pining for their civilization's lost glory (though many races can lay claim to that in PoLand, e.g. elves, tieflings, humans). @<a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=6786252" target="_blank">Mephista</a> I...hesitate to assume such things, fearing that I will reveal more of my own biases than others'. :SMy problem is I love Tolkien...I just don't see anything wrong with having other things besides--or even instead of--elves and dwarves in a world with Tolkien-esque storytelling. I mean, heck, after the Chronicles of Narnia, my next stop on the fantasy-novel train was The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings!Edit: And another way to say it. I have no problem with enjoying Tolkien-esque stories--even ones that remain focused only on those groups he chose to write into his stories. But limiting yourself to only that...and opposing the inclusion of support for ideas beyond that...seems just incredibly confining, for little reason other than to shut down creative avenues. It would be like saying, "I've been eating a variety of food for 40 years...now all I want to eat is lasagna, every day, forever. And I don't want other people buying soy sauce and tofu either!" The former part is just...why would you limit yourself to even one kind of cuisine, let alone a single dish--even a really versatile one like "stir fry" or something? What happens when someone asks if you'll make soup? And the second part makes even less sense than that, since it's about controlling what others can do.I get that it can be annoying to have to tell people, "No, just because it's in the book doesn't mean I'm okay with you playing one." But I just straight up don't see how that mild annoyance--even if it is repeated every single time you run a game!--trumps others' desire to play it at all. And yes, even with 5e, I've had DMs (well, *a* DM) who plays things purely by-the-book (no need to tell me how aberrant that is, it's already been discussed to death).</blockquote>

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