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<blockquote data-quote="Ilbranteloth" data-source="post: 6798383" data-attributes="member: 6778044"><p>As I said, it doesn't quite match the description given in the text. But if that's just bright red hair, instead of flaming, it's not that different. </p><p></p><p>The 3.5 picture has hair and no scales:</p><p></p><p><a href="http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/forgottenrealms/images/a/a8/Genasi.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20080819171438" target="_blank">http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/forgottenrealms/images/a/a8/Genasi.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20080819171438</a></p><p></p><p>The very pale skin of the air genasi and the green skin of the water genasi are still a bit more than I'd like, but they could pass as something exotic. On the other hand, they wouldn't get as old as pictured in Calimshan if they looked like that.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well, I think a lot of people care. <em>I</em> care. Although there wasn't a particular direction in the original post, by the 10th post there was an opinion (that received XP) that the way WotC dumped the dragonborn into the FR was not great. And the discussion has continued.</p><p></p><p>I have been very forthcoming in pointing out that this is how I run my Realms, and that it's based on an early publishing era. But dragonborn in the Forgotten Realms appear to have the most support in Erin's novels. I just went through the 4th ed Campaign Setting, Neverwinter Campaign Setting, and the SCAG and they are mentioned only in places related to Returned Abeir, Tymanther, and their immediate neighbors in the 4th Ed. I don't know if there was an adventure that included more information. In terms of organizations, they are mentioned as being involved with the Cult of the Dragon (in the 4th Ed campaign guide and the random encounter tables of Neverwinter), and they, or their 'half-dragon' clones, are all over in Hoard of the Dragon Queen and Rise of Tiamat. </p><p></p><p>Other than Returned Abeir and its affects, dragonborn, and the morphing of the descriptions from the 3rd Edition Campaign Setting, my campaign is largely canon with the current age. I've dealt with the issues by keeping to the original description of the planetouched, and eliminating most of the Returned Abeir story line that was effectively retconned anyway. That leaves the dragonborn as described. And based on the published game material, they exist outside of Tymanther only in relationship with the Cult of the Dragon, or in relation to Chessenta's veneration of Tchazzar. Having not read the novels, I can't comment. So it's almost 100% in line with the lore, classes, and such until the end of 3rd ed, and retains some of that from 4th edition, and the majority of the 5th edition. In fact, there is exactly a page-and-a-half of material regarding dragonborn in the SCAG, and that's the only material I do not retain so far in all of the 5th edition material published regarding the Realms.</p><p></p><p>I'm wondering if anybody can point me in the direction of any statement in the official FR game materials that states dragonborn even exist outside of Tymanther. Because I haven't found it. </p><p></p><p>The bottom line for me is that not everybody is happy with the way WotC has handled the racial, class and lore additions to the Realms. That the most egregious of this occurred during the 4th edition is irrelevant, other than a lot of it has been brushed away to bring things closer to where they were in the 3rd edition. I don't feel that my opinion should be yours. But I do think that it's important for other DMs to understand that it's OK to stick to your guns regarding your world, even if it's a published world.</p><p></p><p>Ilbranteloth</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ilbranteloth, post: 6798383, member: 6778044"] As I said, it doesn't quite match the description given in the text. But if that's just bright red hair, instead of flaming, it's not that different. The 3.5 picture has hair and no scales: [url]http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/forgottenrealms/images/a/a8/Genasi.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20080819171438[/url] The very pale skin of the air genasi and the green skin of the water genasi are still a bit more than I'd like, but they could pass as something exotic. On the other hand, they wouldn't get as old as pictured in Calimshan if they looked like that. Well, I think a lot of people care. [i]I[/i] care. Although there wasn't a particular direction in the original post, by the 10th post there was an opinion (that received XP) that the way WotC dumped the dragonborn into the FR was not great. And the discussion has continued. I have been very forthcoming in pointing out that this is how I run my Realms, and that it's based on an early publishing era. But dragonborn in the Forgotten Realms appear to have the most support in Erin's novels. I just went through the 4th ed Campaign Setting, Neverwinter Campaign Setting, and the SCAG and they are mentioned only in places related to Returned Abeir, Tymanther, and their immediate neighbors in the 4th Ed. I don't know if there was an adventure that included more information. In terms of organizations, they are mentioned as being involved with the Cult of the Dragon (in the 4th Ed campaign guide and the random encounter tables of Neverwinter), and they, or their 'half-dragon' clones, are all over in Hoard of the Dragon Queen and Rise of Tiamat. Other than Returned Abeir and its affects, dragonborn, and the morphing of the descriptions from the 3rd Edition Campaign Setting, my campaign is largely canon with the current age. I've dealt with the issues by keeping to the original description of the planetouched, and eliminating most of the Returned Abeir story line that was effectively retconned anyway. That leaves the dragonborn as described. And based on the published game material, they exist outside of Tymanther only in relationship with the Cult of the Dragon, or in relation to Chessenta's veneration of Tchazzar. Having not read the novels, I can't comment. So it's almost 100% in line with the lore, classes, and such until the end of 3rd ed, and retains some of that from 4th edition, and the majority of the 5th edition. In fact, there is exactly a page-and-a-half of material regarding dragonborn in the SCAG, and that's the only material I do not retain so far in all of the 5th edition material published regarding the Realms. I'm wondering if anybody can point me in the direction of any statement in the official FR game materials that states dragonborn even exist outside of Tymanther. Because I haven't found it. The bottom line for me is that not everybody is happy with the way WotC has handled the racial, class and lore additions to the Realms. That the most egregious of this occurred during the 4th edition is irrelevant, other than a lot of it has been brushed away to bring things closer to where they were in the 3rd edition. I don't feel that my opinion should be yours. But I do think that it's important for other DMs to understand that it's OK to stick to your guns regarding your world, even if it's a published world. Ilbranteloth [/QUOTE]
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