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<blockquote data-quote="Riley37" data-source="post: 6595079" data-attributes="member: 6786839">Well, that's IMO a much more interesting story than &quot;you're clearing out a dungeon&quot;, and more to the point, it provides *context for moral decisions* which &quot;you're clearing out a dungeon&quot; does not.In that story, exterminating the orc warriors and their mates* and orphans is not necessary, and not even useful. Therefore, a player has, or *can discover*, information which can guide a decision about what their PC should do. If the PCs exterminate the orcs, and the raids continue, then hey, maybe the PCs realize that they were reckless with lethal force, and maybe a lawful good deity WOULD raise questions about rules of engagement. Lawful good deities, IMO, care about rules of engagement. Lawful good deities prefer that their followers open with something like &quot;Listen up, you primitive screwheads! You can stop raiding caravans, or we're going to kill you all right now!&quot; Did the players bother, or did they bypass that step?That's ethically different that the &quot;you're clearing a dungeon&quot; roguelike scenario previously presented, and therefore the difference is NOT an irrelevant detail.*Are the orc warriors all male? That's how humans usually roll, but maybe orcs in the campaign setting are dimorphic like the spotted hyena.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Riley37, post: 6595079, member: 6786839"] Well, that's IMO a much more interesting story than "you're clearing out a dungeon", and more to the point, it provides *context for moral decisions* which "you're clearing out a dungeon" does not. In that story, exterminating the orc warriors and their mates* and orphans is not necessary, and not even useful. Therefore, a player has, or *can discover*, information which can guide a decision about what their PC should do. If the PCs exterminate the orcs, and the raids continue, then hey, maybe the PCs realize that they were reckless with lethal force, and maybe a lawful good deity WOULD raise questions about rules of engagement. Lawful good deities, IMO, care about rules of engagement. Lawful good deities prefer that their followers open with something like "Listen up, you primitive screwheads! You can stop raiding caravans, or we're going to kill you all right now!" Did the players bother, or did they bypass that step? That's ethically different that the "you're clearing a dungeon" roguelike scenario previously presented, and therefore the difference is NOT an irrelevant detail. *Are the orc warriors all male? That's how humans usually roll, but maybe orcs in the campaign setting are dimorphic like the spotted hyena. [/QUOTE]

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